Refraction

[Tangled-Universe]

very nice, Martin, I echo the above....now some fishes?

Thanks Jason Well...honestly I was thinking about it, but couldn't find nice models.

However, I do have the Red Sea library from XFrog which contains some anemonies and see-weeds.
I tried those and the refraction destroyed their looks too much. I might try it again, but for now I'll move on to something else.

Martin

[Kadri]

"image-map" ? How could you do that? 

Nice render , Martin !

I am doing a water test image since 2 days and i can't stand the long render times. You are patient really !

[Tangled-Universe]

Thanks Kadri Yes...image-map..I know...shame on me
I used a fill-light setup, which is considerably faster than GI. Perhaps that's also the reason why you think it's so slow and why I'm so patient

[Kadri]

Thanks Kadri Yes...image-map..I know...shame on me
I used a fill-light setup, which is considerably faster than GI. Perhaps that's also the reason why you think it's so slow and why I'm so patient

No i know you are patient But thanks for the tip 

[Zairyn Arsyn]

(jumps in TG2 water) Splash! 

very nice, Martin, I echo the above....now some fishes?

Thanks Jason Well...honestly I was thinking about it, but couldn't find nice models.

However, I do have the Red Sea library from XFrog which contains some anemonies and see-weeds.
I tried those and the refraction destroyed their looks too much. I might try it again, but for now I'll move on to something else.

Martin

i have some fish models (in obj format) - a couple to be exact.
but their not mine, there was link to them here on the forums in a post from a few years back
i think the website is down though...

this looks really good, i especially like the sand and the little rocks/pebbles on the bottom

[Hannes]

No reason to be ashamed for using image map shaders! When it's faster and the result is good, why not use it?

[Dune]

I use them all the time (as masks), but I can imagine the aim for purism. Like watercolorists hating to use opaque paint to fix their mistakes.

[Oshyan]

Detail 2 should be equivalent to .5 underwater I believe. You'd need 4 for detail 1 equivalence, unfortunately. Assuming at least that the terrain detail underwater responds the same as in Raytrace Everything.

But regardless it looks quite good!

- Oshyan

[Dune]

Wouldn't it be possible to add a slider (+ default as it is today) to increase detail underwater?

[Oshyan]

Probably, yes. It's something I'd like to do, but doesn't fit into the development priorities at the moment.

- Oshyan

[Tangled-Universe]

Detail 2 should be equivalent to .5 underwater I believe. You'd need 4 for detail 1 equivalence, unfortunately. Assuming at least that the terrain detail underwater responds the same as in Raytrace Everything.

But regardless it looks quite good!

- Oshyan

Are you certain Oshyan? It's really stuck into my brain that the detail multiplier of the watertransparency is set to 0.5. I believe that actually you told me that
Anyhow...I'm testing now and it seems you're right as far as I can tell while rendering.
Will show the result later.

[Dune]

Will you be needing any fish, Martin? I've got some downloaded from this (downed?) site.

---Dune

[Tangled-Universe]

Will you be needing any fish, Martin? I've got some downloaded from this (downed?) site.

---Dune

Thanks for the offer Ulco
At the moment I'm working on/finishing another scene and perhaps I'll render it again with even higher settings.

[ra]

Very convincing work! Great! I really like those "macro" renders.

[Tangled-Universe]

Detail 2 should be equivalent to .5 underwater I believe. You'd need 4 for detail 1 equivalence, unfortunately. Assuming at least that the terrain detail underwater responds the same as in Raytrace Everything.

But regardless it looks quite good!

- Oshyan

Are you certain Oshyan? It's really stuck into my brain that the detail multiplier of the watertransparency is set to 0.5. I believe that actually you told me that
Anyhow...I'm testing now and it seems you're right as far as I can tell while rendering.
Will show the result later.

Yes Oshyan, you are right. The multiplier seems to be set at 0.25.
I'm rendering now at 3.4 detail which should be equivalent to 0.85.
After 8 hours nearly done for 60% and it's looking very good

Cheers,
Martin