The State has Become our God

Started by AP, December 07, 2014, 05:32:48 PM

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TheBadger

QuoteTo be considered instinctual, a behavior must: a) be automatic, b) be irresistible, c) occur at some point in development, d) be triggered by some event in the environment, e) occur in every member of the species, f) be unmodifiable, and g) govern behavior for which the organism needs no training (although the organism may profit from experience and to that degree the behavior is modifiable).
On the "g" the extra part seems to be more about improving on, rather than, changing the nature of, an instinct.

Your examples don't meet the criteria.
Humans don't have instincts. again, reflex and intuition are not the same as instinct. But are commonly credited as instincts.
There is nothing in your posted definition that contradicts me on this. The examples in the definition are correct word usage in a sentence, not real examples of an instinct in humans.
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WAS

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Quote from: TheBadger on January 02, 2015, 08:12:38 PM
QuoteTo be considered instinctual, a behavior must: a) be automatic, b) be irresistible, c) occur at some point in development, d) be triggered by some event in the environment, e) occur in every member of the species, f) be unmodifiable, and g) govern behavior for which the organism needs no training (although the organism may profit from experience and to that degree the behavior is modifiable).
On the "g" the extra part seems to be more about improving on, rather than, changing the nature of, an instinct.

Your examples don't meet the criteria.
Humans don't have instincts. again, reflex and intuition are not the same as instinct. But are commonly credited as instincts.
There is nothing in your posted definition that contradicts me on this. The examples in the definition are correct word usage in a sentence, not real examples of an instinct in humans.

That's arrogance at it's finest when somethings is in your face. You couldn't be a baby, or a child without instincts. Let alone a human. lmao

Again you are putting new meaning to whats in front of your face and already incorporates humans into the definitions. Lol

The need to start a family, to love someone, that, itself is a instinct. The desire to love that child before it's even a peanut in your wives belly, that's instincts. To react without thought to grab that child before it's hit by a car, that's instincts.

To feel a overwhelming sense of worry, that's instincts. To get scared when you know someone may be bad, that's instincts.
Post-Micturition Convulsion Syndrome is a instinct. Involuntary laughter, from tickling, or w/e, is a instinct. Blushing is a instinct and stems from flushing to attract mates. Contagious emotions are a instinct and part of the fight or flight instinct. By being generally happy you can instill that on a whole group. Yawning is not related to sleeping but a sign of "contentment" and why it is contagious. It is also a instinct. The Mammalian Diving Reflex is also a instinct.

These are all things we share with animals. Why they call some the "Fight or Flight Instinct" which incorporates every living thing including humans.

I think you really need to learn what instinctive reactions actually are before you fight it.

Here is a study from 1904 which doesn't differ from the science we know now: https://www.brocku.ca/MeadProject/Angell/Angell_1906/Angell_1906_p.html

PabloMack

You guys are trying to put a hard definition on a very soft word.

archonforest

Quote from: PabloMack on January 02, 2015, 10:25:31 PM
You guys are trying to put a hard definition on a very soft word.
LOL!!

BTW I looked up that study WASasquatch you linked there... Psychology and Psychiatry is just pure crap and evilness. Pls do not trust a word they say. They drugging children, man and woman for money big time.
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PabloMack

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Quote from: archonforest on January 03, 2015, 06:43:40 AMPsychology and Psychiatry is just pure crap and evilness. Pls do not trust a word they say. They drugging children, man and woman for money big time.

Amen to that! I studied evolution in graduate school and took an animal behavior class called "Ethology". It is the study of the behavior of animals in their natural states. The BIG JOKE was that the failure of the field of Psychology is well illustrated in a boast which is the name of one of Psychology's seminal works by one of the field's founding fore-fathers, B. F. Skinner "The Behavior of Organisms". His research is solely based on the study of the laboratory rat. Think about it. This is the artificially mutated animal of one species in a very un-natural state. No wonder psychologists are all so confused...

Kadri

Quote from: archonforest on January 03, 2015, 06:43:40 AM
...Pls do not trust a word they say...

I would only change "a word" with " every word" :)