...I found on the DELL a tgd in the presets file; spires with storm clouds.tgd I think, that I couldn't resist finishing. This is lo res as I wanted it today heh heh, the sky takes approx 5 hrs at decent resolution. All the veg is XFROG freebies except Walli's rye grass. The sky was originally 4 cloud layers and 1 fog so I turned off 2 and the fog and got this and I just zoomed around till I found this view. Love the presets as a starting point.