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Offline Scott_TX

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Critique New Render
« on: November 06, 2018, 07:11:26 PM »
Any comments would be appreciated.

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Re: Critique New Render
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2018, 07:18:26 PM »
Hi Scott,

What a great start to this scene. I really enjoy it, how long have you been tinkering with TG?

The one thing I could suggest is colour variation in the models via shaders. It's actually pretty easy to do so long as the object itself isn't broken up into to many parts that could be merged. Also some transparency to some of the leaf models might help them pop.

The rocks could use maybe one more (smaller) scaled version merged in to Highest Raise with the Merge Shader to give the appearance of scale variation.

Aside from those things there isn't much to add except that this is one of those renders (the way lighting is set up) that may really benefit from Path Tracing with the foliage shadows, especially internally within the pops which would probably help define depth month the pops.

Great work, and can't wait to see more from ya, you seem to be on the path to success.
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Re: Critique New Render
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2018, 07:57:13 PM »
Very good. For the shore, I'd add some smaller size rocks with color variation to break it up, especially the flatter area. What are those leafy plants? While nice looking, they are all very straight and that detracts from realism. Perhaps some leafy bushes interspersed would help? Is that dark cloud intentional? Almost looks like a plume from a fire. Maybe should have more volume - looks a bit flat. Just some ideas for you. But again, really well done overall.

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Re: Critique New Render
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2018, 12:39:13 PM »
Great start!

Are the straight plants nettles? Perhapss you can vary their angles to the terrain? If they are part of a population just let lean them to the terrain.
The suggetion about some different sized rocks at the shore is good as well.

Anyway this will be great. I already like the edge of the woods very much!

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Re: Critique New Render
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2018, 01:20:02 PM »
Hi Scott,
welcome to the forum!! This is indeed a great start! I agree with the others. some more improvement, and you're there.
If you have access to a 3d modeling program, you could load these plants and bend them slightly. Thus you'd have some more variation in angles, if lean to terrain doesn't work, because the terrain is just too flat.

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Re: Critique New Render
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2018, 03:08:32 PM »
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if lean to terrain doesn't work, because the terrain is just too flat.
You can always add a small fractal displaced quite roughly (but not high, so it won't lift trees above ground). Add as last fractal plus a compute normal with small patch in a separate line to the pop, and set rotation. They will rotate then, despite the overall flatness of terrain, and you won't see the displacements in the render.

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Re: Critique New Render
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2018, 03:37:51 PM »
Hi Scott,

What a great start to this scene. I really enjoy it, how long have you been tinkering with TG?

The one thing I could suggest is colour variation in the models via shaders. It's actually pretty easy to do so long as the object itself isn't broken up into to many parts that could be merged. Also some transparency to some of the leaf models might help them pop.

The rocks could use maybe one more (smaller) scaled version merged in to Highest Raise with the Merge Shader to give the appearance of scale variation.

Aside from those things there isn't much to add except that this is one of those renders (the way lighting is set up) that may really benefit from Path Tracing with the foliage shadows, especially internally within the pops which would probably help define depth month the pops.

Great work, and can't wait to see more from ya, you seem to be on the path to success.

I have been using Terragen to render plants created by my students in Blender for a couple of school years.  And yeah I have fought to create a better shore line.

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Re: Critique New Render
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2018, 03:39:18 PM »
Great start!

Are the straight plants nettles? Perhapss you can vary their angles to the terrain? If they are part of a population just let lean them to the terrain.
The suggetion about some different sized rocks at the shore is good as well.

Anyway this will be great. I already like the edge of the woods very much!

No, they were created in blender.  The are a local species we call Bloodweed.  They are generally tall and straight.

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Re: Critique New Render
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2018, 03:43:24 PM »
Here is an earlier version with a different shoreline.  I didn't like the upward displacement of some of the larger rocks and don't know how to fix it.  See lower left.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2018, 03:45:27 PM by Scott_TX »

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Re: Critique New Render
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2018, 05:31:11 PM »
Welcome back Scott! You are still doing great with your Blender vegetation! Do you use the sapling generator or skin modifier method? However you are doing this, great wide trunks and texturing. Excellent leaf distribution too. :)

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Re: Critique New Render
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2018, 06:00:21 PM »
Welcome back Scott! You are still doing great with your Blender vegetation! Do you use the sapling generator or skin modifier method? However you are doing this, great wide trunks and texturing. Excellent leaf distribution too. :)

The trees were created with the blender sapling addon and with the modular tree addon.

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Re: Critique New Render
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2018, 01:07:51 AM »
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Re: Critique New Render
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2018, 12:04:37 AM »
Echo Danny and all the critiques I had have been mentioned...happy tweaking
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Re: Critique New Render
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2018, 01:56:52 PM »
Well done and welcome!