Along the Mohawk

Started by sboerner, July 11, 2020, 12:41:28 PM

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sboerner

Thanks. And yes I think once they were underway it was just a matter of maintaining forward momentum. Here are a couple of images. Not sure of the date of the photo but it would have to be after 1850 or so. The painting is contemporary (1829) and is what I based the models on.

It was still hard work though. Horses were switched out every eight miles. Later on mules hauling freight would be switched out after six-hour shifts (around 18-20 miles).


sboerner

Thanks! Doing my best to make things authentic and keep guesswork to a minimum.

Here is the latest iteration with the team in place and some new foreground details. This will probably be the last iteration I post before it's completed. Just need to add luggage and a few more passengers on the boat.

Hannes

Beautiful!!! One thing: the plants next to the path are standing very straight. Maybe some lean effect would make it look a bit more natural.
And I'd love to see this rendered with the path tracer. Especially the plants to the right would benefit from that.

Dune

Absolutely gorgeous! I am glad you didn't put more people on the roof, it's great now. The light is beautiful. And I'm inclined to believe this IS path traced.

I agree with Hannes about the weeds' straightness. Maybe a few more species would benefit the render as well. And there are also two areas of branches that struck me, in a less than positive way; the dead log with its protruding dark sticky branch (which looks a bit strange), and on the right there's a tree with 3 kind of the same branches above each other. I would probably do something about those areas.

Jo Kariboo

It is very nice! Historically, I just learned that there was a time when some pleasure craft was pulled by horses.

sboerner

Thanks! There will be some changes before it is finished, including a few more people on the roof. These boats could carry up to 50-60 or more passengers. No way I'm putting that many on board, but I will probably add another small group near the bow. Also need to add luggage. Hopefully there's a way to maintain clarity and composition while conveying a sense of what traveling on these boats was really like. (Every contemporary account I've read mentions how crowded they were.)

I appreciate the comments about the foliage. There are five or six species on the ground now next to the towpath, so maybe it's just a matter of making a few more variations. Leaning some of them is a good idea. And those branches in the upper right have been bothering me, too. I worked so hard on that fallen tree trunk!  :) But I'll have a look at that awkward branch too.

And Ulco is correct – this is path traced. I've been experimenting with ways to improve the shadow detail – increasing GI prepass padding (at 0.5 now) and max paths (now at 36). I don't think I need to add a fill light (like a plane to reflect light back into the shadows). Overall I think the natural contrast looks pretty good.

Hannes

Quote from: sboerner on November 14, 2020, 12:30:11 PMAnd Ulco is correct - this is path traced.
Oh, I missed that! Is there any additional lighting? Looking at the plants to the right, I would have bet, it's not path traced...

Nevertheless it's an amazing scenery!

sboerner

No additional lighting, just the sun which is just above the crest of the cliff at top right (out of the frame). A high layer of cirrus clouds softens it slightly and provides some fill. I was wondering if the scene needs additional lighting . . . I'd say not.

DocCharly65

Great result so far!

Now waiting for the final with the already announced little corrections like the branches and the leaning groundcover. But I like it already.

WAS

These are really cool. With the latest one I notice the plants in the water don't extent past the boat. It would bee cool to see them diffuse the water edges along the canal. But really beautiful scene.

sboerner

QuoteWith the latest one I notice the plants in the water don't extent past the boat. It would bee cool to see them diffuse the water edges along the canal.

Thanks for noticing that. I think I just did a small patch as a test early on and then forgot about it. Adding it to my list . . .

Here is an assortment of pioneer luggage for the top of the packet boat. Not much detail but more than enough considering the distance.

sboerner

This will be the final version (or at least very close). Framing has been tightened (55mm to 60mm lens), the sun has been backed up 35 minutes for a lower angle. Little more TLC for the towpath. Luggage and a couple more passengers for the packet. More arrowheads for the canal bank, and some curvature added to the milkweed stems (though not much; in real life they have hollow, straight stems).

Learned a lot, as usual. And am gradually building a good library of assets. On to the next scene.

DocCharly65

It's a bit a pity that the wonderful luggage no longer comes into its own.
But the whole render is a masterpiece :)

Dune

Wonderful! The light is still beautifully arranged, all objects fall into perfect place. But there's one more thing. The vegetation on the opposite side on the right seems to have a few slightly undulating horizontal black lines across the pop. I think it's because it's only one type, and all more or less the same size. So I think you should either mix in one or a few more types with leaves at different heights, or alternatively, have the pop sit on an extra PF with 10cm displacement and -5cm offset (hanging at the end of the line).