GPU's again, still undecided

Dune · March 13, 2021, 07:47:59 AM

This is what I mean, thanks Kadri. I may wait it out a little longer, and check the internet forums and stuff once in a while. Frustrating indeed, too much choice, and at the same time, too little available.

Kadri · March 13, 2021, 08:28:37 AM

Yes. I hate those firms. They make this on purpose more complicated.

D.A. Bentley (SuddenPlanet) · March 14, 2021, 09:01:49 AM

https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-rtx-3060-vs-rtx-3060-ti/

Dune · March 14, 2021, 11:09:16 AM

Interesting. That's probably why the Ti is unavailable (here at least), while the 12GB version still is. Btw. I wonder why there's so much difference in price between Europe and USA. I see it's priced at $399, while here we have to put down more than €800 for a Ti.

D.A. Bentley (SuddenPlanet) · March 15, 2021, 12:46:02 AM

Quote from: Dune on March 14, 2021, 11:09:16 AMInteresting. That's probably why the Ti is unavailable (here at least), while the 12GB version still is. Btw. I wonder why there's so much difference in price between Europe and USA. I see it's priced at $399, while here we have to put down more than €800 for a Ti.

Not sure why pricing is so much higher in Europe, but maybe something can be derived from this: https://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

Thats crazy expensive for a 3060. €800 is equal to $955.96 USD right now.

Dune · March 15, 2021, 02:50:48 AM

Thanks for that link. I'm not very into economics, but I do see that our foreign debt is relatively immense. No wonder 'they' want to get our money. Might be better to get one abroad as a 'non-value' second-hand

PabloMack · March 21, 2021, 01:06:36 PM

I just bought a pre-built 5950x "gaming" system from B&H Photo Video and it includes an RTX-3070. It seems to be a pretty good deal for $2,379.99 at a time when CPUs and systems are difficult to keep in stock. This one system should more than double my render farm's computing power (one PhenomII-955 and four FX-8350's), on paper anyway.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1617919-REG/cyberpowerpc_gamer_supreme_liquid_cool.html/specs

Dune · March 22, 2021, 02:40:44 AM

Not expensive at all, but as said, I think US prices are way lower than here. If I could get that here, I'd buy immediately.
It only needs more RAM than 16....

PabloMack · March 22, 2021, 03:37:55 PM

Quote from: Dune on March 22, 2021, 02:40:44 AMNot expensive at all, but as said, I think US prices are way lower than here. If I could get that here, I'd buy immediately.
It only needs more RAM than 16....

The system can accommodate up to 64GB of RAM. My plan is to get by with 16 for now and expand later when/if the prices come down for memory. I think the EU collects the VAT taxes that would otherwise belong to the US if it had such a thing. It is also likely charging an extra tariff for protectionism. I wouldn't be surprised if the EU had a plan to coerce its citizens to buy ARM-based computers instead of x86. Their "supercomputers" are already going that way. If NVIDIA bought ARM, it would throw a wrench ("spanner" if you are British) in the works. I think that may ultimately kill the deal for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Processor_Initiative
https://theconversation.com/nvidias-us-40-billion-deal-to-buy-arm-is-all-but-dead-its-a-classic-example-of-geopolitics-killing-innovation-154999

Dune · March 23, 2021, 03:02:34 AM

Mmmm, interesting, but sad.

WAS · March 23, 2021, 03:08:14 AM

Quote from: PabloMack on March 22, 2021, 03:37:55 PMThe system can accommodate up to 64GB of RAM. My plan is to get by with 16 for now and expand later when/if the prices come down for memory.

Yeah I grabbed my 32gb kit almost right before the price sky rocketed. Glad I made that investment.

ARM Processors are fun and all, but highly specialized. Slow cores, medium cores, couple fast cores. All the effort are performance cuts for battery life is just silly. Just develop better batteries or get used to the idea of an outlet.