E-on learns from Planetside - Free Vue 7 Beta (or so we hoped...)

Started by Mohawk20, December 17, 2008, 05:39:37 AM

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matrix2003

The logo is lower right.  If you render wide  [       ] just crop  [   ]    No Logo !
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rcallicotte

Good point, matrix.  This really isn't what I thought.  A watermark tends to cover from the middle out.
So this is Disney World.  Can we live here?

matrix2003

The "new" version has an additional watermark covering the entire image. PLUS the logo in the lower right.
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matrix2003

Does anyone else here appreciate how crazy this conversation is making me?  >:(
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Seth


matrix2003

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Mohawk20

I hear you Matrix!!

As I said, I don't get it anymore, why the Watermark if they have a demo and PLE...?
Howgh!

Jack

they just do it to piss people off so much that they buy the software
look at all this you have to get to have a decent software
http://www.e-onsoftware.com/products/vue/vue_7_t_pack/?page=action#modules
vue maybe a great software but from my experiences with customer service it is shocking :(
My terragen gallery:
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Mohawk20

And look at the prices for basic features!

$99 to be able to add populations.
Another $99 to add a painted shader, or something similar!!
But to be able to use those, you need to import objects, and that's another $129!!


For that price you have TG2 Deep + Animation, with money to spare!

And then you don't have big render sizes or good lighting, and no animation...



Bad, bad marketing strategy. Especially with such a competitor as Planetside so close behind.
Howgh!

Jack

yeah i agree Terragen 2 still has not had its break yet as the vue lineup has, its not really a that well known product,  but i don't think it will be long when terragen enters the spot light
i am dying to see what the terragen scenes in startrek look like

lol if you want all the modules it will cost ya 848 dollars now considering the financial climate what person can afford that :-\
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Mohawk20

Quote from: wetbanana on March 27, 2009, 07:31:27 PM
lol if you want all the modules it will cost ya 848 dollars now considering the financial climate what person can afford that :-\

Well, that might actually be the underlying logic behind this...

Instead of having to buy a top product for a top price, you can download a free product and upgrade it one piece at a time for low prices. It's like how I buy and upgrade my pc's, never more than €200 at a time.

So from that point of view it's a pretty good concept actually.



Still, TG2 is more value for your money right now, and even later on as Planetside will keep a free version available with far more functionality than this Vue version.
Howgh!

Seth

Will you have given up TG2 if the trial version of Vue7 would have been watermark-less ?
personnaly I don' think so  ;D
Vue Vs TG2 is a classic now 
with fan boys and all...
let's just say their Free version sux big time and that TG2 rules :P

rcallicotte

So this is Disney World.  Can we live here?

latego

E-On software used to have a wise policy w.r.t. modules pricing. E.g., I got Vue 6 Esprit during a september sale (at half price) and then, during about one year, I got one by one the modules to reach Pro configuration.

Surely, doing things this way costed more than doing it in one shot, but the actual difference was not great (and the bons of buying things bit by bit compensated for it).

With the new price structure, it cost difference between the one-shot and bit-by-bit approches is so high that it is not justifiable. An example? if you get Pioneer and all the modules required for Complete configuration, you spend as much as getting Infinite.

The end result of this suicidal decision is that people cannot justify the modular approach and, when confronted with the one-shot prices, think twice (or more) times before typing the credit card code in the order form.

You are saying that now Pioneer has the watermark all around? Well, this means that you have to get at least the RenderUp module; without being able to import meshes, it is next to useless, so you need Import3D; Vue ecosystems are handled in such a way that even just modifying their scaling (to adapt them to your actual scene) amounts to editing, so you need also the ecosystem module. Now, you have reached 7 Esprit cost (without some modules). End result? While Vue 6 had an entry version, Vue 7 has no more it.

Matt, Jo, Oshyan... you teamed with DAZ (Carrara 7) marketing when devising E-On strategy, didn't you?  ;D ;D ;D

Bye!!!

PG

When you say that buying vue bit by bit isn't much more than buying it as one unit, well that's true but it's still $600 more than TG2. For the same features as TG2 you pay so much more and there's nothing to appeal specially to businesses. They're a waste of time, IMHO. They charge more, are lousy quality in comparison (to the extent of having painted clouds like TG 0.9 in the background and "bubble" clouds that games use for "volumetric" clouds), the only people who it would benefit are impatient businesses who would rather sacrifice stunning images for a *slightly* faster pipeline. And I did a check with Vue 6 (which I bought for some reason) and TG2. The same style image, same resolution and quality, 26 hours 15 minutes in TG2, 25 hours and 34 minutes in Vue. To me that's not worth $600.
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