mountain lake

Started by folder, April 25, 2009, 12:02:22 AM

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folder

this is a scene I have been working on - for both fake stone placement and shape, layers etc. the water foam is from a tgd by hetzen and dune. I made some modifications. any and all c and c welcome.

folder

Mohawk20

A mountain lake never has foam...
Other than that, this looks pretty nice, though a bit low on quality.
Howgh!

Dune

Hi Folder,

Looks like a wild Scottish higland stream to me. Perhaps needs some lighter foam to get even more impact (another layer of foam with slightly lighter colour), or the whole foam lightened up a bit. And I think you need something large up front, to get more depth. A (few) really huge rock(s) perhaps. And maybe some more small displacement in the smooth underground. I'm not sure whether I see rock, mud or sand.


---Dune  

domdib

It is a bit reminiscent of a Highland stream. Although the quality is low, it gives it a nice painterly feel, particularly in the clouds.

jo

Hi,

Quote from: Mohawk20 on April 25, 2009, 03:11:46 AM
A mountain lake never has foam...

Yes they do, believe me! :-) I fish a lot of mountain lakes and it can get very windy here. Have a look at this:

http://www.sexyloops.com/picofday/expedition/ex20.shtml

In the bottom picture you can see some of the foam on the water. You can see the small waves breaking in the background, there was foam built up to around mid calf on the downwind shore. It's a shame the top photo isn't clearer, but the entire lake looked like it was pinstriped in alternating bands of foam and clear water, parallel with the wind direction. Sadly I've seen it that way often :-), makes the fishing a bit tough.

That is a kind of a weird lake, I don't often see the foam like it gets there, it really hangs around and piles up like foam in the sea can, but other lakes I fish which aren't quite so weird get whitecaps and such, even small ones. You often get foam collecting into wind lanes and such. When you see foam collecting it's a good place to look for fish, because insects and such blown onto the water also collect there.

Regards,

Jo

folder

thanks all for the comments, I was working from some photos of lakes taken here in colorado. as  to the quality, I am not sure what settings to use ie aa, quality etc. I will work on the layer displacement as that was my real concern.

folder

Mohawk20

Quote from: jo on April 25, 2009, 09:26:38 AM
Hi,

Quote from: Mohawk20 on April 25, 2009, 03:11:46 AM
A mountain lake never has foam...

Yes they do, believe me! :-) I fish a lot of mountain lakes and it can get very windy here. Have a look at this:

http://www.sexyloops.com/picofday/expedition/ex20.shtml

Regards,

Jo


Oh, sorry my mistake.
Every mountain lake I've been to was very calm apparently...
Howgh!

efflux

The render quality is obviously not high enough but the general arrangement here is good. I think the foam is cool. Maybe it's a little over the top but it looks like a big river. I can see this being used very effectively especially if you had stones in the water.

rcallicotte

If your atmosphere (or clouds) had more detail, this would be very close to realistic.  Beautiful looking scene with good potential.
So this is Disney World.  Can we live here?

folder

thanks Calico

can you suggest some settings - i'm weak in this area

folder

rcallicotte

Atmosphere samples can do well in scenes like this from 32 to 64, though some might vary in their opinions about what works best.  I like higher numbers here.

Cloud samples are an area I still am learning, since I have not used the Detail settings and need to understand it better.  Back when I used the Samples setting, I would never go below 128 and never higher than about 384 for Cumulus.  Once I used 512, but only once.  The cloud samples (Detail) increases will skyrocket the render times.

I could be wrong, since I can't see the clouds all that well due to the fuzziness of the atmosphere, but you might not need to change your cloud settings.
So this is Disney World.  Can we live here?

Oshyan

I think mostly you just need higher overall detail. This looks like 0.5 or even less. I would try 0.75 or so before even trying to increase other settings.

- Oshyan

folder

thanks

will try that setting tonight