HELP ME KEEP TERRAGEN 2 OFF THE WAREZ SITES

[dublin]

Just as i thought dublin...I posted pretty much the exact reasons you just stated above. clever me 

so you think im not a pirate trying to get his fix of software?

[dublin]

Why would anyone download TG from a hack/wares site when you can download it from Planetside's main site?  And I doubt that a cracked key file would work either. Dunno??  Maybe this person works for Matt?    Undercover, eh?

you must have very little knowedge of the software underworld.
autodesk tryed using an advanced security dongle lock for their precious maya 2008.exe no less than a week later the crack team XFORCE had managed to write an emulator and keygen to bypass maya's high tec security system so I dont think a little key file to block acess to terragen 2 will be much of a firewall to a software cracker

(sorry for my bad english )

[dublin]

And even if tg2 ends up on the net, if we simply report it to planetside (not to this guy), and perhaps even download it and send its registration file to planetside, that should be more then enough for them to sort it out and deal with whoever was leaking it to the net.

I did this months ago..........

[mac]

I would not be surprised if "Dublin" has the same IP address  as the former member known as "Lightning"

[urban_rebellion]

Just as i thought dublin...I posted pretty much the exact reasons you just stated above. clever me 

so you think im not a pirate trying to get his fix of software?

Lol no i think if you were youd be looking elsewhere. Like I said I dont see how you asking everyone to be vigilant and report piracy could lead to someone on this board then revealing a link to a pirate version (which you posted a link to already so if you wanted a warez version of TG then you could have got it without ever starting this thread).

...so i dont see how the OP could be fishing for warez versions of TG when he's just asking everyone to keep an eye out for (and report) illegal links as it seems members above were suggesting (im looking at you cyphyr).

If anything Id say he spent a whole lotta dough on his own liscense and doesnt like the idea of pirates using it for free (not the swashbuckling type of pirates though, i dont think they have computers).

[PG]

and why is everyone being such a bitch about me trying to help out a small company like planetside? most of you people seem to think aw fuck it I bought my copy of terragen 2 let planetside deal with the warez not stopping to think that every time a person downloads terragen 2 from rapidshare planetside looses 300 usd

The way I see it, planetside's not losing $300 because if someone's going to download it illegally then they're not going to pay $300 if that download isn't available

[Oshyan]

Interesting discussion. We appreciate the concern, to be sure. If anyone wants to take it upon themselves to try to curtail piracy of our software, or any other, that's a noble endeavor. But I think it's safe to say we're not too worried about piracy. We provide a completely free version of our software, and the key system while not terribly sophisticated, is at least a much smaller target than Maya and other well-known software.

I do occasionally look around for a working cracked version of TG2 (TG 0.9 was cracked a long time ago), but I have yet to find one, so it's interesting that Dublin seems to have. As someone mentioned, if we had the key it uses we ought to be able to determine who it's from, unless someone managed to create a working gey generator...

- Oshyan

[dublin]

and why is everyone being such a bitch about me trying to help out a small company like planetside? most of you people seem to think aw fuck it I bought my copy of terragen 2 let planetside deal with the warez not stopping to think that every time a person downloads terragen 2 from rapidshare planetside looses 300 usd

The way I see it, planetside's not losing $300 because if someone's going to download it illegally then they're not going to pay $300 if that download isn't available

A certain percentage of them will

[dublin]

Interesting discussion. We appreciate the concern, to be sure. If anyone wants to take it upon themselves to try to curtail piracy of our software, or any other, that's a noble endeavor. But I think it's safe to say we're not too worried about piracy. We provide a completely free version of our software, and the key system while not terribly sophisticated, is at least a much smaller target than Maya and other well-known software.

I do occasionally look around for a working cracked version of TG2 (TG 0.9 was cracked a long time ago), but I have yet to find one, so it's interesting that Dublin seems to have. As someone mentioned, if we had the key it uses we ought to be able to determine who it's from, unless someone managed to create a working gey generator...

- Oshyan

do you want me to give you a live link to prove my point...........

[Oshyan]

Interesting discussion. We appreciate the concern, to be sure. If anyone wants to take it upon themselves to try to curtail piracy of our software, or any other, that's a noble endeavor. But I think it's safe to say we're not too worried about piracy. We provide a completely free version of our software, and the key system while not terribly sophisticated, is at least a much smaller target than Maya and other well-known software.

I do occasionally look around for a working cracked version of TG2 (TG 0.9 was cracked a long time ago), but I have yet to find one, so it's interesting that Dublin seems to have. As someone mentioned, if we had the key it uses we ought to be able to determine who it's from, unless someone managed to create a working gey generator...

- Oshyan

do you want me to give you a live link to prove my point...........

Sure, if you have one. It's not that I don't believe you, I just haven't seen any myself yet, that's all.

- Oshyan

[Matt]

I need to correct what Oshyan said about our policy on piracy. It is a concern to us and it does affect our revenue. We appreciate any information that is provided to us about illegal versions of our software so that we can try to limit their spread and provide the best value to our real customers.

Thanks,

Matt

[plugsnpixels]

I was not suspicious of the OP because I do the same thing when I see pirated Photoshop plug-ins. While I don't tend to appeal for public help on the forums in this manner, I do privately write my developer contacts and let them know what's going on as I discover it. Out of respect for their efforts to provide good software I try to help them protect their products, even though as a third party it is not necessarily my problem or my obligation to do so.

[Oshyan]

Correction, I should have said *I'm* not too concerned about piracy. Personally I don't feel that most copy right protection schemes are generally very effective at preventing actual piracy. *Real* piracy must necessarily be defined as someone who would have actually been a purchaser deciding against it because they can get something for free. The vast majority of piraters of most software seem to me to be very casual users who would not have purchased anyway. The small percentage of lost sales is perhaps a concern, but then you must consider how much time, money, and effort you put into fighting the problem. I think we strike a very good balance not having a tremendously involved registration or activation process.

- Oshyan

[dublin]

what I suggest to help prevent piracy of terragen

Incorporate a special pass and code for terragen 2 users that we use when we update our versions because at the moment a pirate can just update via the program and get the latest version with very little ease maybe change the password every update you issue
anyway the pirated copy is licensed to:
Heidi Campbell
Though this may not be her fault as most pirates post copies of software from their company they work for etc
but its worth emailing this person and seeing whats going on

the other thing is to get a few guys like me to keep a regular look out on the warez sites of coarse you can not stop 100% of piracy but stopping at least 80% is good enough i think

[Oshyan]

Thanks, we're on the case! And your work is much appreciated. The update password idea is definitely a good one and we'll have to think about how we might protect the updates in the future.

- Oshyan