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Title: Lazy river
Post by: Lady of the Lake on September 01, 2013, 10:09:46 PM
Lupine by Walli, cattails by Dune, trees by X-Frog, sorry don't know about the canoe.

Can someone tell me why this looks so "grainy"?  I tried lots of things to make it better, to no avail.  (TG3, free version)

Thanks for looking.
Lyla
Title: Re: Lazy river
Post by: yossam on September 01, 2013, 10:25:33 PM
What are your render settings and atmosphere settings? Looks like there is a lot of haze in the atmo.....................may not have your settings high enough.


Richard
Title: Re: Lazy river
Post by: Lady of the Lake on September 01, 2013, 10:35:19 PM
At one time I had the haze setting at 0, but when I rendered it was .117, samples 34, height 0.   Render setting, as high as the free version will allow which is AA4 and detail .6.    Mitchell-Netrnali, default GI settings, checked DOF with noise reduction, Def atmosphere.  I tried the sun at different locations and elevations; couldn't seem to get anything better.  :-(
Title: Re: Lazy river
Post by: choronr on September 02, 2013, 01:05:32 AM
I know you said you tried a lot of different sun positions; but, consider the upper right hand corner of the scene. You need to get some light on the water for a more effective scene. Play with the altitude ... maybe at 18 or lower. Even try moving the sun more to the right. Then, work with your GI settings.
Title: Re: Lazy river
Post by: Dune on September 02, 2013, 03:25:44 AM
I like this scene, but there's something funny about the water. It's very dark. Is that on purpose? For a pleasing scene like this I'd use 'normal' water, just decrease the biggest wave size from 10 to 0.5, and maybe transparency from 10m to 3m or so. Maybe also reduce wave roughness to 0.005 or 0.01. I would also increase coverage of trees on the furthest bumps where the river bends, maybe all the way down to the water. Isn't the default atmo node working good enough here?
Title: Re: Lazy river
Post by: Lady of the Lake on September 02, 2013, 09:44:25 AM
Will try all suggested but don't think I want the sun on the other side of the water.  I think I want the shadows coming from the other side.  Back later.
Title: Re: Lazy river
Post by: Lady of the Lake on September 02, 2013, 06:53:20 PM
Better?

Lowered some of the trees in the bend of the river.  Changed the color of the water....a little "muddy" now.   Changed the position of the sun a bit, brightened the right willow tree, changed the pixel filter to sharp, and increased the GI settings.

Comments, please.
Title: Re: Lazy river
Post by: Jo Kariboo on September 02, 2013, 07:34:04 PM
Yes better, nice improvement !!!
Title: Re: Lazy river
Post by: yossam on September 02, 2013, 08:36:22 PM
Looks much better............... ;D
Title: Re: Lazy river
Post by: Lady of the Lake on September 02, 2013, 08:41:19 PM
Thanks for your help everyone.  Appreciated. ;D
Title: Re: Lazy river
Post by: choronr on September 02, 2013, 09:01:59 PM
Good rework here, much improved.
Title: Re: Lazy river
Post by: Dune on September 03, 2013, 02:52:39 AM
Yes, this is really much better.
Title: Re: Lazy river
Post by: DannyG on September 03, 2013, 09:48:09 AM
Damn good Lyla
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Post by: masonspappy on September 03, 2013, 11:08:32 AM
That does look nice. Colors are much more true now.
Title: Re: Lazy river
Post by: inkydigit on September 03, 2013, 03:44:45 PM
I like the heavy atmo here... Real lazy feel...nicely done!
:)
J
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Post by: TheBadger on September 04, 2013, 12:36:11 AM
looks real nice.
Title: Re: Lazy river
Post by: Bjur on September 04, 2013, 01:46:08 AM
I like.

But as a person who never posted a still (pic) till yet in this section here I have to moan..

Too much blue haze/atmo stuff in your good scene i say!

*Run and hides  ;D
Title: Re: Lazy river
Post by: Dune on September 04, 2013, 03:10:36 AM
@bjur: you never did? Why not?
Title: Re: Lazy river
Post by: Bjur on September 06, 2013, 04:51:16 AM
It´s because lack of time and my kind of handling TG I guess.

Since I'm testing TG just for animation till yet, I'm doin the opposite what would makes a still beautiful as
I try everytime to crush down visuals and possibilities instead evolving or learning them.
I still feel like a very beginner creating (still) stuff in all.. :/

But i try to spit out a simple still these days as the support don't want to sell me an TG3 upgrade it seems and I have to wait. ^
Title: Re: Lazy river
Post by: Oshyan on September 06, 2013, 05:49:38 AM
Whatnow? Of course we want to sell you a TG3 upgrade. :D What seems to be the trouble?

- OShyan