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Title: Funny ears
Post by: Dune on October 16, 2020, 02:49:41 AM
A new guy, testing. I have to increase polycount to make his hair though; they sit in rows, kind of. I'm always a bit on the meagre side when it comes to polys, as the objects get heavier and heavier with more hair and more polys in the hair, and I'm reluctant to get them over a few hundred MB's. I usually use them on a bit of distance anyway. Though for more quality it needs to be. This guy is now 200Mb.
Small error in the ears, too much bump.
Mind you, this is 'just' a DAZ figure.
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: DocCharly65 on October 16, 2020, 07:00:13 AM
In fact a kind of skin disease at the ears ;D
But nonetheless a great character render!
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: N-drju on October 16, 2020, 08:08:20 AM
Great figure. DAZ hairstyles, when exported, doesn't seem to be too heavy though... perhaps you could just build some basic strands and define hair through opacity map, like DAZ does?

The fact that this is "just" a DAZ figure speaks volumes about the possibilities that the "basic" free figure offers. Something I still have to explore. Unfortunately, I am bogged down in the paperwork these days.
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: Hannes on October 16, 2020, 09:33:59 AM
Nevertheless great character. I assume this is not subsurface scattering? Maybe his ears would look less bumpy with a sss shader.
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: sboerner on October 16, 2020, 10:58:25 AM
Daz model perhaps, but I assume you've reworked the mesh and shading. Great character.
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: Dune on October 16, 2020, 11:07:43 AM
Thanks guys. No SSS indeed, but I just had the bump factor too high.

The character is morphed (made in ZB) in DAZ, but no other higher poly additions to the original Genesis 1 figure. The rest is TG shading; global dirt and skin variation, a skin image map for extra bump, an image map with some scratches and pustules/pimples, that sort of thing.

I do have basic strands with an image map, but this fibre mesh hair is better. For close-up people I just need to dive into the higher polycount some day.
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: Dune on October 22, 2020, 01:05:13 PM
Another Neanderthal, with more hairs and thus 250MB. Still not enough hairs... :(
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: Hannes on October 22, 2020, 03:34:46 PM
Great already! I like the skin/fur ( I mean the clothing) a lot!
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: N-drju on October 23, 2020, 05:53:49 AM
I'd say this is a pretty good model and a fair trade for 250 megabytes. I'd say 450 if I was supposed to guess it.

The hair on the Neanderthal looks alright, but the clothing could indeed be improved. Perhaps you can just "comb" it parallel to the skin, rather than having it pricked up like this? You know, kind of a thick-fiber coat that cannot be ruffled.
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: Dune on October 23, 2020, 06:59:14 AM
The guy is cold, so the hairs on his cloak stand up ;D
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: DocCharly65 on October 23, 2020, 11:17:53 AM
Quote from: Dune on October 23, 2020, 06:59:14 AMThe guy is cold, so the hairs on his cloak stand up ;D
;D

Great!
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: Dune on October 23, 2020, 11:58:07 AM
Last version for now, RT render. Made more hairs on his suit. I think I'll leave him like this.
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: DocCharly65 on October 24, 2020, 01:12:17 AM
The additional Hair looks good! And I think you have reduced the aperture diameter a bit? I Like it.
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: Dune on October 24, 2020, 02:35:48 AM
Thanks Nils. I'm pretty satisfied (though I can always do better if using a million polys :P  ) Aperture down a bit indeed. I found it too blurry.
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: Hannes on October 24, 2020, 04:37:53 AM
That guy looks really great. I have to say that out of curiosity I'd love to see this character with subsurface scattering.
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: Dune on October 24, 2020, 05:36:58 AM
I could try that, but it would mean 10 glass shaders or so for all parts. I think the face, eyes and such would be the most important ones, not all the hairs... it might take ages.
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: Hannes on October 24, 2020, 05:58:26 AM
Quote from: Dune on October 24, 2020, 05:36:58 AM... it might take ages.


Not necessarily. For my latest image ("Death in paradise") I had a regular shader for the dead body's skin in the foreground first. Then I decided to try subsurface scattering shaders for all skin parts.
Using the human shaders I shared here:
https://planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,27382.0.html
it was a piece of cake to insert the texture maps into the appropriate image map shaders.

Of course rendertimes are longer with the PT renderer, but as soon as there are human skin parts in the foreground or plants at all, I'd say it's worth the waiting.
Rendertime for my latest image (with loads and loads of plants and other objects) with the path tracer was six and a half hours for a 3K render. Not bad I'd say...
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: Dune on October 24, 2020, 10:55:35 AM
I'll pick up your share once again (probably have it somewhere, but that's faster). I tend to forget settings I don't use often.
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: masonspappy on October 24, 2020, 07:27:07 PM
Wait - I know this guy. Doesn't he work at Wal-Mart?
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: WAS on October 24, 2020, 09:51:44 PM
With hair you could most certainly probably get away with hard surface approximation which is much faster.
Title: Re: Funny ears
Post by: Dune on October 26, 2020, 11:41:33 AM
The glass shader was without reflection at first, which I later changed. The hair is far too low poly for such a close-up.

The background is a projected earlier render on a card.