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Title: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: Dune on January 15, 2019, 05:44:55 AM
Does any of you have experience working on a 32 inch screen? I have a Eizo S2431W screen, which is excellent, but for larger renders I'd prefer a bigger size. So, thinking of 32 inch, I'm trying to find out what's important and whether it works fine. I read it needs a good graphics card to start with (GTX660 or higher). Any ideas are welcome....
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: Kadri on January 15, 2019, 05:51:43 AM

Do you mean 32 inch or 4K (on a 32 inch monitor) Ulco?
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: Dune on January 15, 2019, 06:31:15 AM
4K on 32 inch. Like this one: https://www.eizo.nl/flexscan/ev3285-bk/ (https://www.eizo.nl/flexscan/ev3285-bk/)
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: archonforest on January 15, 2019, 07:31:50 AM
That is a nice one for sure. Otherwise I do not understand your question here. What do you mean if its work fine?
Eizo is a good company and in general it will work great for sure. My workstation is hooked to a full HD 37 inch TV and it works good. The picture quality is good but not as good as a real computer monitor.

As for video card...yes you need a stronger card. It should be a "4K ready" one. Meaning it should say something on the box of the card.
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: Dune on January 15, 2019, 10:19:02 AM
Thanks. I've read that you may get into 'trouble' with resolution; like letters getting to small. You'd have to compensate that again software-wise. And my monitor is hooked on an Aten 22csu KVM usb switch, so I can use two machines on the one screen. That needs to work also.
Good that you mention 4K ready, I have to check what I have. And my 32-bit online machine (both win 7 and XP on 2 partitions) also has to work on that combination  :P
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: archonforest on January 15, 2019, 10:37:07 AM
Here is a budget 4K capable non-gaming card: Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 Low Profile 2G GDDR5.

This is a budget card and able to output 4K
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: Dune on January 15, 2019, 10:45:25 AM
Ah, cool. Thanks.
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: zaxxon on January 15, 2019, 11:45:46 AM
Hey Ulco, I have two 'larger' monitors:

https://www.lg.com/us/business/commercial-display/it-products/desktop-monitors/lg-31MU97Z-B
https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-43UD79-B-4k-uhd-led-monitor

I also am a win 7 user and found the scaling of text on the 31" (actually 31.5 diagonal) not to be an issue. On the 43" display TG scales ok but sometimes 'glitches' with slightly overlapped text. I suspect those brave enough to render on win 10 wouldn't have the scaling issues. Some applications like Houdini have a preference setting for larger res monitors. I use the TESmart KVM 4 port switcher as not all switchers can handle 4k and it's a great bargain at around $120 US.

https://www.amazon.com/TESmart-HDMI-Ultra-Switch-3840x2160/dp/B078KG5N2Q

Lots of 'Brand' names are manufactured by the same factories and the quality control  is reportedly uneven. LG seems like an industry innovator and I'm very impressed with their products, we also have a LG 65" OLED monitor that is simply stunning.

While 'Big' isn't always 'Better' it certainly is a joy to work with all that screen space and going 'back' would be painful. I recommend Nvidia cards, and the 4GB 1050's are about $150 US these days.


Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: Dune on January 15, 2019, 12:11:17 PM
Thanks for your input, Doug! Very much appreciated. It's always a mixed feeling, spending a lot on hardware. I can do without, but you only live once, and why not work pleasantly. And I get some important potential clients and need to show stuff. A 32 inch presentation will probably pull them over faster than a presentation on a 24 inch  ;)
I'll sleep over this...
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: jaf on January 15, 2019, 06:24:30 PM
I have two 27" 4K monitors and the text on some applications that don't scale well (Lightwave) is quite small.  However, I have the displays mounted on articulated arms so I can bring them up close to me if needed.

I think a 32" wouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: Dune on January 16, 2019, 02:04:30 AM
Thanks, jaf.
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: Oshyan on January 16, 2019, 02:20:19 AM
If you're buying a new monitor, pay some attention to color accuracy and color model representation. 100% sRGB/rec.709 at a minimum. The 31MU97Z-B Doug pointed out looks promising. I am currently looking at 31-32" 4k monitors myself. I have a spreadsheet going if you'd like me to share it with you. :D

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: Dune on January 16, 2019, 02:53:45 AM
Thanks Oshyan, I would indeed be interested to see your spreadsheet. For that kind of money it's good to make a wise decision. The LG is not as expensive as the Eizo I'm looking at. But it has its drawbacks too. I just read a Dutch review:
The LG 31MU97Z-B is a 31 inch monitor with 4096x2160 resolution. The monitor uses an IPS panel, which usually means good color rendering and viewing angles. LG promises a maximum brightness of 320 cd / m², a contrast of 1000: 1 and a response time of 5 ms. The screen offers DisplayPort and HDMI as digital connections. The screen is suitable for modern Apple computers and other PCs with Thunderbolt connection. Thanks to the integrated USB hub you can connect peripherals such as mouse and keyboard via the monitor. Because the screen is height-adjustable, the LG 31MU97Z-B is suitable for ergonomic workstations. If desired you can use the monitor rotated in so-called portrait mode. According to our test results, the maximum brightness is 300.9 cd / m², making the screen bright enough for very bright rooms. At maximum brightness the black level is 0.35 cd / m², which results in an excellent contrast of 859.7: 1. The standard color temperature of the screen is 5491 Kelvin, which ensures a slight yellow cast. The average color deviation of 3.76 on the basis of the DeltaE 2000 standard means that the colors show a small, barely visible deviation. This makes it suitable for simple photo editing. Energy use at a brightness of 150 cd / m² is 57.2 W.
I notice it uses quite a lot of energy in comparison to the Eizo (30W).
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: Kadri on January 16, 2019, 03:19:57 AM

It depends on your work space and is subjective but i would go closer to 40 inch for a 4k monitor (I use a 32 inch HD monitor).
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: Dune on January 16, 2019, 04:15:50 AM
My work space is actually not very big (3x5m), so I think a 32 will do for me. You'd have to sit further away too, I guess, if the screen is so large. Right now I sit at 80cm (32") from my 24" screen.
I also found , while reading the reviews about the switch, that I can't maintain my Aten switch; that also has to be able to deal with 4K, apparently.
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: zaxxon on January 16, 2019, 11:06:00 AM
The 31 inch LG is without doubt the finest monitor I've ever used, and the work space with TG is big enough to be useful and comfortable to view. The 43" monitor is (believe it or not)  a bit too large at times. I believe that the size lends itself to displaying multiple apps or inputs, but often in the evening when my eyes are a bit weary that big screen is just what I need  :).    I agree with Oshyan, color accuracy is a primary consideration.  The LG Ultrafine monitor series are aimed at professional use to output production quality imagery and adhere to the Adobe Color Space standards (99.5% in this case). I understand that energy use may be an issue depending how your provider charges. Choosing a monitor is a big deal for sure. Good hunting!
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: Dune on January 16, 2019, 11:53:12 AM
Thanks Doug. I have a strong tendency for the Eizo (as that's what I have now, and it is a really good brand), but for the €500 more I can burn a lot of KWh's. Maybe I can sell my S2431W, which will be obsolete then. Just tested it at the Eizo site and it's in perfect nick.
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: Oshyan on January 16, 2019, 07:19:17 PM
Is energy just expensive there, or what? These differences are relatively small IMO, at least from what I'm used to of energy prices. They would amount to less than a dollar with a month of full-time use here.

As for that specific LG, it looks like it's discontinued. I don't know what the successor model would be.

I'll share my spreadsheet with you shortly Ulco.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: Dune on January 17, 2019, 01:44:47 AM
Maybe it's nitpicking and overdone climate concern, but I also don't want to have to change my powersupply also. Looking forward to your spreadsheet, Oshyan.
And speaking about eyestrain, Doug. That is one concern of mine, and I hope that will be better with a larger screen; my eyes are getting worse, and I hate to stop doing computer work. So all that helps, I'll change.
Our KWh is about €0.20, so almost twice that of the USA.
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: Oshyan on January 17, 2019, 02:51:29 PM
Ulco, is that measured power usage (30w), for example with a plugin power meter on your side? Or just what you understood the specs to be? According to the manual the Eizo you have uses "60W or less" (when USB and speakers are *not* in use). It does not have an Energy Star energy use number, which is mostly what I am finding on newer displays, so it's hard to compare. It has a "typical" usage of 19W, which may be when energy-saving tech is in use (which usually reduces brightness of the display, for example).

And of course if you are upgrading to a 32" display from 27", it is quite possible (though perhaps not inevitable, with newer tech?) that power consumption will go up. I will try to add power consumption numbers to my spreadsheet. Though they may not be directly comparable to what you have.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: D.A. Bentley (SuddenPlanet) on February 02, 2019, 10:51:44 AM
This is the monitor I use, and love:  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1UH5BM1868 (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1UH5BM1868)

Mine is the 2k version but there is a 4k version as well.  I prefer the 2k actually for my main monitor.  A 4k would be nice for a secondary monitor for viewing renders and photos, but I find working on a 2k monitor is easier on the eyes.

Derek
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: Dune on February 02, 2019, 11:30:03 AM
Thanks Derek. That's what I was wondering; how eye-tiring is it to work on a larger screen with such big resolution in comparison to a 24" with 1920x1200 resolution?
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: D.A. Bentley (SuddenPlanet) on February 10, 2019, 10:56:21 PM
Hey Dune,

Here is another great monitor if your still looking:  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16824236467 (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16824236467)

Derek
Title: Re: Monitor 32 inch
Post by: Dune on February 11, 2019, 02:00:41 AM
Thanks Derek.