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Title: Surprise Spherical
Post by: bobbystahr on October 01, 2017, 11:00:40 AM
Loaded up an old test from the VR comp and well TG didn't like my pathing so I wound up with a skeletal scene but it tweaked my imagination so I rendered this. I will re-leafe the trees and fix the Swamp house and do thos correctly soon but here's the eerie render that turned out...looks cool in a viewer. Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical
Post by: Dune on October 01, 2017, 12:10:05 PM
Cool.
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical
Post by: bobbystahr on October 01, 2017, 12:18:05 PM
Quote from: Dune on October 01, 2017, 12:10:05 PM
Cool.

Thanks 'twas a pleasant surprise in the spherical viewer and further spurs me on to do it properly...
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical
Post by: Kadri on October 01, 2017, 12:23:39 PM

Looks interesting.
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical
Post by: bobbystahr on October 01, 2017, 01:53:31 PM
Quote from: Kadri on October 01, 2017, 12:23:39 PM

Looks interesting.

will be much cooler once I address the missing textures...will likely have to re do the pops if past experience counts for anything...for some reasont the gathering doesn't work on my new computer and this was originally done on the old net box I'm typing on atm.
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical
Post by: agent unawares on October 01, 2017, 07:09:36 PM
This is nice! Reminds me of Channelwood.
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical
Post by: bobbystahr on October 01, 2017, 07:12:29 PM
Quote from: agent_unawares on October 01, 2017, 07:09:36 PM
This is nice! Reminds me of Channelwood.

Had to look that up not having ever had any of those game things and you're quite right.  And the real one will look even more so when I fix that .tgd.
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical
Post by: KlausK on October 02, 2017, 06:49:27 AM
Just looked at this in gopro vr player. Looks really nice. I actually like the non-leaved trees here and the overall simplicity of the environment.
To get a more misty spooky feel I can imagine to change the sky to something more like Rumburak has done in his most recent game background
he posted the other day. That is, if you`re after something like that.
I am looking forward to the textured version.
Cheers, Klaus
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical
Post by: bobbystahr on October 02, 2017, 09:47:02 AM
Here's a test at 1/2 size...some things to touch up yet....
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical...So....
Post by: bobbystahr on October 03, 2017, 02:55:54 PM
...First attempt is an overniter so I had no chance to cancel, is way blown out by the lighting and the 2nd one still has a problem with fall off and strength greatly reduced, in fact the torch on the House's deck no longer looks lit but is still causing problems. C&C welcome.
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical
Post by: Dune on October 04, 2017, 02:37:45 AM
I think, if you want these lights, the whole image should be darker, but maybe PS can solve that easily. And your boat needs texture! And water...
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical
Post by: bobbystahr on October 04, 2017, 02:51:00 AM
Quote from: Dune on October 04, 2017, 02:37:45 AM
I think, if you want these lights, the whole image should be darker, but maybe PS can solve that easily. And your boat needs texture! And water...

There actually is water, a murky mix you shared with me but it seems to have lost all transparency. In the overblown one you see light reflecting in it so I know it's there heh heh. The lights are nice in a Perspective render but I think excessive/not needed here. I'm going to dial some luminosity into the torch flame and turn the interior lites either way down on all counts ot just off and well the boat needs a new texture as the current one is too dark...it is on there, I checked.
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical
Post by: Dune on October 04, 2017, 03:00:55 AM
Maybe the displacement/bumpmapping is too high, then you often get darker objects as well. You could experiment with planes or cards that reflect light on some areas (how much depends on luminosity or color of object) and render it invisible. The light will still be there (if that bug has been fixed in public version, that is).
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical
Post by: bobbystahr on October 04, 2017, 10:51:47 AM
Quote from: Dune on October 04, 2017, 03:00:55 AM
Maybe the displacement/bumpmapping is too high, then you often get darker objects as well. You could experiment with planes or cards that reflect light on some areas (how much depends on luminosity or color of object) and render it invisible. The light will still be there (if that bug has been fixed in public version, that is).

Yeah, th bump map may be the problem...will check that first, thanks. Is/was there a problem with the card and luminosity? I used it recently on another render and it worked fine.

UPDATE
Well I fixed the water and that boat was not cooperating on any level so I totally retextured it and replaced the existing one. Curious I made a copy of Daniel from the 2nd floor porch and moved it to the boat which turned ot to be cabin cruiser size so it was scaled to the human and now the building as a happy consequence. But the waterlilies were now gigantic...so it goes when 1 thing is off eh. Scaling them caused them to diaappear and I couldn't coerce them into existance no matter what so I deleted that pop and started again and this time popping crashed TG....sigh...taking a wee break before I break something...
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical
Post by: blokan on October 04, 2017, 12:51:47 PM
Looks nice, but tree on first plan looks strange at the up
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical
Post by: N-drju on October 05, 2017, 08:10:40 AM
Actually the first render is the most promising one. ;) It looks spooky, especially with the swamp house being "broken" like that and the surroundings. Perhaps you can play around with two versions?
Title: Re: Surprise SphericalIFINAL
Post by: bobbystahr on October 05, 2017, 10:26:22 AM
Well  N-drju I think based on this 9 hr render that I'll do no more with this leafy version as it keeps blowing up like this and I've no idea why. Here's the last render I'll do.....sigh...there are no lights or luminous objects in the scene...have no idea what's causing this...
Moving on now.
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical
Post by: bobbystahr on October 05, 2017, 10:28:52 AM
Quote from: bobbystahr on October 01, 2017, 12:18:05 PM
Quote from: Dune on October 01, 2017, 12:10:05 PM
Cool.

Thanks 'twas a pleasant surprise in the spherical viewer and further spurs me on to do it properly...


heh heh, guess I should have stayed with the skeletal version as I still like it best....
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical
Post by: N-drju on October 05, 2017, 11:38:52 AM
Bobby, I think this might have to do with the leaves on the tree.

I get same effect (though not as invasive) when using XFrog Amarylis. Usually, there is a flare lighting up on some flowers due to high reflectivity settings of the petals. Did you try to reduce it? Play with the texture?

I think this has to do with the tree object itself. There is no reason for TG to blow renders like that.

Anyway, this just proves the idea that there is something otherworldly going on in that mysterious cottage. :D
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical
Post by: bobbystahr on October 05, 2017, 11:45:08 AM
Quote from: N-drju on October 05, 2017, 11:38:52 AM
Bobby, I think this might have to do with the leaves on the tree.

I get same effect (though not as invasive) when using XFrog Amarylis. Usually, there is a flare lighting up on some flowers due to high reflectivity settings of the petals. Did you try to reduce it? Play with the texture?

I think this has to do with the tree object itself. There is no reason for TG to blow renders like that.

Anyway, this just proves the idea that there is something otherworldly going on in that mysterious cottage. :D


The trees have no reflectivity, nor any specular(set to 0) and I set all trees to the same specs so I'm lost here...as I said...moving on I guess...much more to try

You may well be right about the house heh heh...if anyone wants to dissect this I could post the .tgd...all the objects are free either from here, XFROG or NWDA  for Dune's grasses. I did use some paid version Walli grasses in the swamp though.
Title: Re: Surprise Spherical
Post by: bobbystahr on October 05, 2017, 10:19:28 PM
I had a thought that it might be my Mist Cloud layer so I disabled that and now the tree right behind the house blows up and some light appears at both sides...sigh