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Title: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: Mahnmut on September 10, 2012, 10:02:30 AM
That´s the best actual Mars data  I have (bumpmap and surface colour).
great for planetary shots.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8035/7980908601_401cda3065_b.jpg)

up close its less great:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8170/7970902030_bbb8290c32.jpg)
Reference: the foreground sphere is 10 m in diameter, the background one 10km, roughly Mount Everest size.

And now, the same view terraformed:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8170/7970901330_8473f8b2c3_c.jpg)
Not perfect , but I think I am getting there.
Any C&C?
Places you´d like to see? This is a tangential view of the Valles Marineris btw.
Best Regards,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: Wurby on September 10, 2012, 11:28:33 AM
That is absolutely epic. just sayin.
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: masonspappy on September 10, 2012, 03:01:18 PM
So, "Green Mars" is what this would be if Mars suddenly aquired an atmosphere?
- Cam
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: Mahnmut on September 10, 2012, 03:49:07 PM
Thanks Wurby!
All you need for the first image are these two maps:

http://decibel.fi.muni.cz/models/cinema2008/xstukovs/2/marsbump.jpg

http://solarviews.com/raw/mars/marscyl1l.jpg

Although the bumpmap I use is bigger(16k), I got it from the celestia motherlode but it´s not there anymore. the one above is the best I could find now, good enough for planetary views.
The green one contains a lot of detailwork, about 50 layers. Not all visible in this shot, but finally it looks at least decent up close and from space. I am going to explore my mars a bit now.
And, as always, art can´t outshine nature, behold the real Mars:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/MRO/multimedia/pia15283.html

@ Masonspappy:
mostly, yes, that´s what I mean by Green Mars. It´s also the title of the second book in a great trilogy about the terraformation of Mars.
In my image I use the best (that is highest resolution) Data I can get about Mars´ actual topology and use TG and my imagination to visualize what a living Mars with earthlike atmo, oceans and Plants could look like.

My best regards,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: TheBadger on September 10, 2012, 06:57:30 PM
this is a cool project! Maybe some elements of mans presence?

By the way Jan, did you see this short film Calico found http://vimeo.com/44644178 ?
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: nethskie on September 10, 2012, 07:42:03 PM
superb project! (too bad i haven't learned using bump maps in terragen 2 yet for a whole planet i don't know how to do it i can only do atmosphere image maps) congrats on this good luck with the project looking forward to see the terraformed version!
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: Mahnmut on September 11, 2012, 08:37:30 AM
Thanks, Badger.
I think it´s to early for mans presence, I haven´t explored the beauty of the land yet.
When I browsed through the Nasa "hirise" image galllery yesterday (see link above) I didn´t even lke the idea of terraforming so much because Mars as it is is sooo beautiful!
Great shortmovie anyway, thanks for that.

Thanks nethskie.
I don´t know if my way is the optimal, but I use bumpmaps as follows:
I put a Surfacelayer in the terrain group (before compute terrain) and use an image map shader with you bumpmap as its displacement funktion. My Mars has roughly realistic proportions with a radius of 3.4e006 m and an displacement amplitude of 40000 m
The image has to be projected spherically, with its center at 0/0/0 if you enable "rotate texture with planet" and "translate texture with planet" in the planets settings. this way you can move your planet around, but it gets tricky with additional procedural landscape.
f you switch of the two texture options put your imagemaps center at the planets center and  your map won´t move with the planet, but surface layers act more predictable. So the latter is better for closeup shots, for rotating planets use the first option. Thats as much as I learned recently.

And here some more impression of the green Mars:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8175/7974675769_b07a1138a1_c.jpg
Not so green in a high valley of noctis labyrinthus
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8454/7974675980_ab632197da_c.jpg
a little further down, Thanks to dandelOs planetary gras shader!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8179/7974675796_ae8c98c15c_c.jpg
still in noctis, no new settings for this shot, that´s how it was when I first came there.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8445/7976135187_a3248699bf_c.jpg)
Low tide in the argyre-sea. Shadows in Atmosphere would have been nice, but that will take days to render.

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4055/4474017619_daf22fb708_z.jpg)
you may know these
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2776/4474009957_d2e96ae3d3_z.jpg)
Argyre sea and Phobos with its old surface, back then I didn´t know better. For the new Phobos, look here:
http://www.planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=15069.0

Best Regards,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: nethskie on September 11, 2012, 04:55:38 PM
wow mate thanks for some tips gonna try this soon!. wow looking really good! just add some north and south pole and it will be even more perfect!
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: Mahnmut on September 12, 2012, 06:47:40 AM
Oh, I got poles. they just need some more makeup before they are ready for closeup shots.
first thumb:
http://www.planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=15036

Best regards,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: masonspappy on September 12, 2012, 07:27:07 AM
I'm wondering - Mars is smaller and so would capture a thinner atmosphere than earth, so it would be a deeper blue. Would also imply that the most habital parts of the planet would be in the deep valleys and ice/snow would occur at fairly low elevations. 
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: Mahnmut on September 12, 2012, 08:48:39 AM
@Masonspappy:
yes, thats more or less what I try to build here :)
You may have noticed the stars in the daylight sky.
Concerning atmosphere thickness: there are other factors than mass, Venus for example has an escape velocity that is about 92% of earths but an atmosphere 50 times thicker on average. The moon Titan got only 24% of the e.v. but an Atmo about 1.4 times thicker than earth.
Mars´ escape velocity is about 45% of Earths, its real Atmosphere has about 0.63% of the density of ours.
My Mars´atmosphere also has a lot of pinkish haze, although on a living Mars most of the dust would be bound to the ground.
A lot of my high altitudes is more or less original Mars-colour.
As for snow, you need two things, cold and humidity. Thats why my high altitudes got no snow. And my lowlands got neither because I decided that my fictional Mars is warmer than that in the tropical and moderate lowlands. But I will keep that in mind when filling in polar detail, until now I´ve only used maps of the real poles.
Thanks for your interest!
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: Mahnmut on September 12, 2012, 07:01:29 PM
Because you asked so nicely for poles ;
And because I spent a rainy day with my new Deep version :)

Northpole,I used the structure of the real marspole, unrealistic for a wet Mars, but to beautiful to discard.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8454/7980908977_a66eed121e.jpg)

southpole
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8320/7980909970_2225d30f98_z.jpg)

Some clouds
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8178/7980908737_0f5e2593fc_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: Kadri on September 12, 2012, 09:16:54 PM

Nice project , Mahnmut !
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: Jo Kariboo on September 12, 2012, 09:24:16 PM
Yes! A very nice project!!! I very like the first and the five last render.
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: masonspappy on September 13, 2012, 06:35:11 AM
The last image (Mars with a thin bluish atmosphere and clouds) is my favorite
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: Hetzen on September 13, 2012, 04:31:14 PM
Some really nice scenes there Mahnmut. Are they all part of the same global rule set?!
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: Oshyan on September 13, 2012, 04:33:24 PM
I'm really enjoying this too. Just picked up Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy again; I previously read through Red Mars but never started on the other two afterward. This time I'll do it right. Your images will evolve as I'm reading, very cool. :D

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: Mahnmut on September 13, 2012, 08:10:02 PM
Thanks Kadri and all of you!

@Jo Kariboo and Masonspappy, you´re right, the planetary views are still way better than the closeups.

@ Hetzen: More or less. There is a lot of childlayers I turn off for planetary views because they just increase rendertime and add nothing but a bit of noise on that scale. First and last image obviously dont use most of my "terraforming", its just the red Mars map plus water or clouds respectively (and by far the most beautiful images, nature is still best) . I use a less dense atmosphere when inside it. And the Water is still a work in progress, I adjust it for each perspective (with varying succes).

@Oshyan: I love these Books. I feel honoured to be assoziated with them.

So here is semitotale of Kasei Vallis for the Robinson fans:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8308/7983993472_a9a5c2da69_b.jpg

Martian scales are really a pain, small planet, big landscapes.
I tried to build a rainforest to fill in for this green layer (originally based on dandelOs planetary grass shader, thanks!).
To make Kasei feel like a BIG river I would have to grow the trees 300 times bigger, otherwise I could simply use the grass shader.
And when I tried to take a closer look , most of the "Riverbed" disappeared behind the horizon. Same thing with the Valles Marineris, standing on one side, you can´t see the other.
BTW, I don´t want to complain, but the evolution of my images is slightly hindered by the fact that TG crashes each time I try to change a colour. And my laptop doesn´t let me install new drivers, any ideas?

In the meantime, enjoy the competition:
http://www.space4case.com/mmw/pages/space4case/mars/mars-images-2007.php
and the real thing:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/MRO/multimedia/latest-images_archive_1.html

Best Regards,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: Mahnmut on September 15, 2012, 07:18:46 PM
Well ,
I forgot about my holistic-realistic approach for now, found some nice datasets with 4 times the resolution of my biggest planetary bumpmap.
This is an unrelated and unrealistic view, the scale is completely fantasy, so that you can actually see both sides of the Valles at once. It´s not realistic, but I like it.
This image wouldn´t be half as good without Wallis Bristlecone Tree, Thanks Walli and Bob! The other trees are xfrog freebies, Thanks Xfrog!
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8035/7989946194_5347938bc3_b.jpg)
Best Regards,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: masonspappy on September 16, 2012, 02:22:05 AM
Good image!
I'm wondering now...since sunlight falling on Mars is weaker/dimmer than on Earth, would plants have broader leaves to compensate for the difference?
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: Mahnmut on September 16, 2012, 04:23:24 PM
Again, a complicated question. On Earth, the broadest leaves grow in the tropics, but maybe in the shadow of the canopy? I don´t know that.
I think plants can only afford broad leaves when the air is humid. for dry, dim regions the ideal plant could be some kind of black cactus that takes in more different wavelengths. Anyway, here come broad leaves (mostly because the uv mapping of this free turbosquid palm model didnt work)
Again, the scale is completely off. but I like the impression. Sometimes you have to make things smaller to see how big they are.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8452/7993245625_5e5bbf2b19_b.jpg)
Best Regards,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: Mahnmut on September 16, 2012, 08:13:32 PM
It turns out craters being water traps are to wet for fir trees...
DandelOs planetary grass on the other hand grows fine there.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8295/7994026847_9f06d556e5_b.jpg)
Shalbatana Vallis, not to scale.
Title: Re: Green Mars: planetary surface detail
Post by: TheBadger on September 17, 2012, 01:43:51 AM
My favorites so far are the high orbit shots including the shot of the polls. They are absolutely gorgeous!
Title: Green Mars: Update on page 2
Post by: Mahnmut on November 18, 2012, 10:14:28 AM
Here is a version that has only moderately been terraformed, much of the terrain lies above the thicker atmosphere:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8338/8196725484_d1a185793b_b.jpg)
C&C are welcome as always!
Best regards,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 2
Post by: TheBadger on November 20, 2012, 11:22:18 AM
Last one looks like a movie! I thought you mentioned that you upgraded your TG2? Looking forward to some animations sometime!

Looks great Mahnmut
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 2
Post by: Mahnmut on November 20, 2012, 12:38:03 PM
Thanks badger!
I won´t find tiem for an animation shortly, but you get bigger images out of my deep version.
Here is another view of the same Mars, wih phobos:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8059/8203763950_97237954d6_b.jpg)
Isidis Planitia on top.
Best regards,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 2
Post by: TheBadger on November 20, 2012, 01:24:25 PM
^^ Fantastic!

QuoteThanks badger!
I won´t find tiem for an animation shortly, but you get bigger images out of my deep version.

I'll take what you guys give me  ;)

But its good to know that those files you are making will last until your ready to come back to 'em. IF you remember that link to the mars movie, the last two images you posted are definitely Syfy ready!

Maybe in the future we can work out a deal where I render the animation for you, and you let me use it as a background for one of my models of a space vehicles giving you proper credit of course. Not now, but could be a good idea soon. Let me know.
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 2
Post by: inkydigit on November 20, 2012, 04:09:56 PM
the last 2 are especially superb!
:)
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 2
Post by: Mahnmut on November 25, 2012, 12:47:56 PM
Thanks Badger and Inkydigit!
Here comes the aftermath of the argyre impact in my fictional universe. I tried for the actual impact but couldn´t make it like I wanted.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8477/8217957138_208aeb2516_b.jpg)
C&C are welcome,
Cheers,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: argyre impact on page 2
Post by: Tangled-Universe on November 25, 2012, 12:53:05 PM
That's a really really nice one :) great work!
Title: Re: Green Mars: argyre impact on page 2
Post by: Mahnmut on November 25, 2012, 12:56:02 PM
Thanks TU!

I just dug out the first green Mars I ever made back in school!

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8070/8218013490_486728eb2b.jpg)

J
Title: Re: Green Mars: argyre impact on page 2
Post by: Mahnmut on December 25, 2012, 05:16:17 PM
Merry christmas to all of you!
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8360/8308663904_2764c50d98_b.jpg)
Well, it´s still a bit retro compared with the last ones, but I think there is some improvement since the late nineties

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8071/8307614705_0f576ab59f_b.jpg)
Another winterly version.
C&C are always welcome.
Cheers,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: argyre impact on page 2
Post by: Simius Strabus on December 26, 2012, 04:02:24 AM
Absolutely stunning images here,
merry Christmas Mahnmut.
Title: Re: Green Mars: argyre impact on page 2
Post by: Kadri on December 26, 2012, 08:05:18 PM

I like the last one Mahnmut.
Title: Re: Green Mars: argyre impact on page 2
Post by: Oshyan on December 26, 2012, 10:12:52 PM
I love how big Olympus Mons is. Just look at that sucker sticking out of the atmosphere. Crazy-ass mountain, hehe.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Green Mars: argyre impact on page 2
Post by: TheBadger on December 29, 2012, 03:35:40 PM
damn. You got this planet down pat!
Title: Re: Green Mars: argyre impact on page 2
Post by: Oshyan on January 03, 2013, 04:09:17 PM
This reminded me of your work, though I think yours is better. ;) http://www.itsokaytobesmart.com/post/39573016811/imagine-a-living-mars

- Oshyan
Title: Update, 128pix/°
Post by: Mahnmut on June 17, 2013, 12:41:45 PM
Nothing creative yet, just playing around with better resolution :)

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5511/9067074839_cd27bf1d22_o.jpg)
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5487/9067077451_7da5b293bd_o.jpg)
Kasei Vallis
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5474/9069300214_5769d920ce_o.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7348/9067076305_9e10fdefb4_o.jpg)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3738/9069298766_34b801a0af_o.jpg
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3767/9069302082_f5d1c368e5_o.jpg)
Cheers,
Jan
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Mahnmut on June 17, 2013, 05:22:56 PM
Wet but cold: a white Mars. I thought I needed something different.
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2865/9071426268_e07f56dd5e_o.jpg)
Looking forward to TG3, I could use that Vortex-shader!
Best Regards,
Jan
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: TheBadger on June 17, 2013, 06:33:52 PM
The look of the last one is gorgeous. Very syfy.
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Mahnmut on June 19, 2013, 09:36:35 AM
White Mars
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2848/9085363368_09204c5539_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Oshyan on June 19, 2013, 05:44:17 PM
Now that (white Mars) looks damn cool!

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Tangled-Universe on June 19, 2013, 06:18:18 PM
Haven't looked for a while in this thread...seems I really missed something...great work!
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Mahnmut on June 20, 2013, 06:52:50 AM
Thanks!
Oshyan, do you mean the greenish white or the white white Mars?
With the latter I am quite content with how the iced over ocean came out, but the land seems flat, I tried a lot with reflectivity and displacement, it is just white. probably that´s realistic for that distance and lighting.
Best regards,
Jan
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Tangled-Universe on June 20, 2013, 06:57:03 AM
I think the "flat look" is difficult to fix. I think the easiest way is to create enough contrasts in your shading which can give the impression of bump.
You can play with lightsources to create shadows here and there, but that might look pretty odd.
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Oshyan on June 20, 2013, 09:52:48 PM
The white. :)

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Mahnmut on June 20, 2013, 11:43:26 PM
Well, it may be true that global views tend to appear a bit flat,
but in that special case, the main problem was that I typed "0,7" instead of "0.7" at a crucial point.
Made some other minor adjustments and rendered it bigger, because I can ;).
This may be my best Mars yet. I don´t know.
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3727/9098552546_5b9e676234_o.jpg)


best regards,
Jan
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Oshyan on June 21, 2013, 12:12:51 AM
Quite lovely. :)

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Bjur on June 24, 2013, 10:23:57 AM
Marvellous works!

Especially your "White Mars" is looking excellent.
I wish i will be able to achieve a quality result like you did as i want/need to create exactly such kind of planet soon for my own project (just with less craters)..  :)
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Mahnmut on June 25, 2013, 01:52:40 PM
Thanks!
Glad you like my white Mars, here come red and green again for now.
May I ask about your project, Bjur? Thanks for calling my Mars a quality result, I feel honoured. Still I think most of the Quality in my result is due to better and better data from the real Mars.

Do you see it? I know the direction is unrealistic, but thats artists licence.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7431/9135161559_8f9620eacb_o.jpg)


Here comes one of my old and most complex yet, yes, green Mars. Didn´t render one of these since I got the deep version.
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2879/9135164297_8ede1c0f56_o.jpg)
Slightly Photoshopped to get rid of the strange terminator shadow.
And I do really look forward to the vortex shader!

Cheers,
Jan
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Bjur on June 25, 2013, 06:01:44 PM
Hey Mahnmut.

Another classy versions!

It isn't exactly Mars i wanted to (re-)create. I just have to create myself an snowy, icy planet/moon in the near future for a sci-fi short project of mine, WIP titled "Welcome Home".

Planned was a cold planet (where some action takes place) which is orbiting maybe a huge gas giant in a solar system with 2 suns, with shots farer away and also closer ones.
The look and visual quality of your planets, especially of your final "White Mars" were matching my idea/vision of a snow planet and wanted look/visual quality i'm aiming at very well.  :D

Me too was thinking about "raping" licence free HQ ESA/NASA HQ data's of known celestials. Thought about reworking and mixing maps and pics for creating a new extraterrestrial surface/texture of a planet.
For orbital shots too, i want to mash up HQ orbital shots from snowy/icy parts of some of the earth's (pole) regions and other coastlines - which have to be matched and merged.

About the project itself, i just posted 2 test animations with the same simple scene but different settings till yet which isn't very related to actual content or dimensions.
But the scene shows the direction of the undertone/mood i'm working with.. 

http://www.planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,16061.0.html (http://www.planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,16061.0.html)

I'm still at an early stage of the project due to lack of 24 additional hours every day needs and just messing around now reworking my snow and surface/rocks (they are killing me!!) and waiting for needed features and other possible enhancements i hope TG.3 will/could deliver..  :)


Greetings, Alex
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Mahnmut on July 03, 2013, 06:37:19 PM
Some more "early terraforming" views.
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3751/9204956082_c2bf70e766_o.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7313/9202166677_8443e19b0c_o.jpg)
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5470/9202167569_a2205b9f92_o.jpg)
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3790/9202165465_da1d731262_o.jpg)
Nrs two and three are looking from aureum chaos over hydraotes chaos towards aram chaos on top.
Cheers,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Mahnmut on July 03, 2013, 11:06:40 PM
Inside the duststorm
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7378/9206234060_e235f08080_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: RArcher on July 04, 2013, 12:00:51 AM
I love all your Mars stuff, just a pleasure to look at all the different variations you have come up with.
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: TheBadger on July 04, 2013, 03:39:06 AM
me too
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Saurav on July 04, 2013, 03:56:25 AM
Awesome planetary renders.
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Hannes on July 04, 2013, 04:34:22 AM
Impressive!
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: inkydigit on July 04, 2013, 05:48:36 PM
more please, I am in heaven , almost!
:)
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Mahnmut on July 04, 2013, 06:23:33 PM
Thanks for all your kind words!
I am flattered!
Any wishes? Some region you would like to see? Some flavour? Red, green, blue, white?
I´d like to make some closeups with vegetation, but the mola-shader (which is great) doesn´t work easily with populations it seems.
Anyway, I am at home with a cold, lots of time for Mars.
Cheers,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: MacGyver on July 05, 2013, 01:08:59 PM
Great work! Keep it up and get well soon, I also caught a cold ;)

I'm a fan of Star Trek, so maybe the glowing terraforming effect of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan would be nice  8)
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Tangled-Universe on July 05, 2013, 01:15:09 PM
Yeah this is simply great stuff.

I like the last one very much too. Just looks very feasible and plausible.
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: TheBadger on July 06, 2013, 01:23:42 PM
QuoteI'm a fan of Star Trek, so maybe the glowing terraforming effect of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan would be nice

I like the films too. But I may have missed what you mean. Do you have a screen shot from the net you can post? Sounds interesting.
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Mahnmut on July 06, 2013, 02:19:36 PM
I don´t remember it properly either. (the Star Trek effect).
But I heard someone talking about crater lakes, so here is mine:
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7423/9225386902_7af8d5facd_o.jpg)
Thanks TU for the inspiration!
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Kadri on July 06, 2013, 03:52:08 PM

One of the better looking ones but music was different in the movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM1r37zIBOQ
and making of :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe9qSLYK5q4
It was 31 years ago...
I was amazed when i saw that sequence at that time and waited for years to do such things on computers.

Your renders are great Mahnmut .
Title: Re: Green Mars: Update
Post by: Mahnmut on July 06, 2013, 09:26:30 PM
Thanks for enlightening me. I will have to watch the old Star-trek movies again.
Until then:
A little animated Gif. For Badger, because somehow I got the impression that he likes animations!

Although it seems I am not gifted as a cameraman, I am quite content with my marsscape. Especially as it came out like that after I only worked on the craterlake.
The strange frames at the beginning an end show the Mola-data without makeup.
Enyoy the bumpy ride!

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7414/9227788862_23c7a7eaa8_o.gif (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7414/9227788862_23c7a7eaa8_o.gif)

Cheers,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: Animated Gif
Post by: Jo Kariboo on July 06, 2013, 11:32:09 PM
Awesome work !!!
Title: Re: Green Mars: Animated Gif
Post by: TheBadger on July 06, 2013, 11:58:19 PM
And I do like it!  ;D

I like the hint of blue and the silver crystal like reflection in the waters as the camera gets up into the air (or whatever the atmo is made from)

I hope in time you will make a little animation of all your versions of mars at high res! And edit together a little movie.
Title: Re: Green Mars: Animated Gif
Post by: Mahnmut on July 07, 2013, 09:01:34 AM
Thanks again!
I think that metallic sheen on the water is mainly a product of the 256 color gif.
Well, here comes what I consider to be my best Mars render until now. Can you spot the rover?

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2883/9232311481_3d9ac3d050_o.jpg)
This is near Protonilus Mensae, looking towards Crater Moreaux (the white depression near the horizon)
And as always, reality is stranger than fiction:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protonilus_Mensae
And that´s without makeup, just molamap+viking colour, spheres are 500m radius:
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5500/9229456247_3f99e741a1_o.jpg
Cheers
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: Animated Gif
Post by: TheBadger on July 07, 2013, 06:35:24 PM
I see a very nice terrain. No rover though?
Title: Green Mars, red update on last page
Post by: Mahnmut on October 14, 2013, 05:29:05 PM
dandelO reminded me to come back to Mars.
In contrast to his great procedural aproach to victoria crater, I owe most of my images merits to the great datasets provided by NASA and ESA (MOLA, HRSC and HiRise ), not much procedural creativity involved yet.

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5519/10278400445_373e8d3cf4_o.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7321/10278377436_00d6f3d128_o.jpg)
Cheers,
Jan
Title: Re: Green Mars: red update on page 5
Post by: dandelO on October 14, 2013, 07:22:42 PM
Love the colouring and terrain features in the last shot, Jan, looks really nice. Atmosphere maybe a little blue/dark, from what I've gathered from recent true-colour Mars imagary.
The crater I made isn't supposed to be a carbon copy of Victoria, by the way. I just used it as reference really to get an idea on diameter/depth/features on a real scaled terrain/atmo, which actually isn't correct at all if I think about it, since the planet still has an Earth radius! Never mind, still worked out fine for a night's tinkering. :)
And, ahhh, of course your atmosphere is blue, I'm forgetting the title of this thread.
Title: Re: Green Mars: red update on page 5
Post by: Bjur on October 14, 2013, 08:25:45 PM
(http://www.dreckskinder.net/~hacky/dreckskinder/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif) your freakin planet stuff!  ;D
Title: Re: Green Mars: red update on page 5
Post by: gregtee on October 15, 2013, 12:15:35 AM
This is really impressive stuff. Keep them coming!
Title: Re: Green Mars: red update on page 5
Post by: Jo Kariboo on October 15, 2013, 12:31:13 PM
Excellent again !!! I very like the last one !!!   :)
Title: Re: Green Mars: red update on page 5
Post by: dandelO on October 16, 2013, 02:58:47 PM
I've went back to reference more colour corrected rover images and you're definitely right with your blue atmosphere, Jan, contrary to my last post. Think I have a more convincing setup now than in my last images. The problem I was finding was with the linking of the bluesky and decay values that TG does automatically. Anyway, I think I'm back on the right track now, scrapped my original atmosphere and started afresh with pretty much a default atmo node with reduced saturation.
Cheers for starting back up this thread, it's taken me off that wrong path I was on earlier with unnecessarily changing density and decay colours. Update later...
Title: Re: Green Mars: red update on page 5
Post by: TheBadger on October 16, 2013, 10:53:25 PM
Time to stop teasing and show us the trailer from your film. Im not buying the "its just a hobby" stuff anymore!
Title: Re: Green Mars: red update on page 5
Post by: Mahnmut on October 17, 2013, 01:33:46 PM
Thanks for all your kind comments!
@dandelO:
The terrain features in the last one are not my work, but nearly pure Mars (Hirise data from Gasa crater).
Concerning the atmospheres colour I took the freedom to show a clear day on Mars as I imagine it, the average day may be somewhere between your more pinkish version and my blue one. But i also like your bluer version.
And before I can make that movie Thebadger wants to see I have to kindly ask your Permission, dandelO, to use your planetary grass shader. That one has helped a lot for the terraformed mid distance images.
Even then, I am afraid I have to work in hospital for a living, and Mars is only a hobby.
Greetings from Mars,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: red update on page 5
Post by: dandelO on October 17, 2013, 02:46:22 PM
Of course, Jan. You don't even need to ask. If I've posted anything in the public, I expect it to be taken and used, unless it's shite, which much of my shares are! :D
I've seen 'nuff TG renders containing my past shares that I couldn't keep hunting down users and demanding credits for these days, even if they had restrictions. There are a few restricted files out there that I've given some select friends for free private use but I wouldn't post them in a public forum if I didn't expect them to be used willy-nillily. Don't worry about that at all.
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: Mahnmut on August 12, 2014, 09:49:11 PM
Not much new content, but some improvement in quality, I hope.
Red
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5561/14899168791_cfae22da02_k.jpg)

Green
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5572/14902215815_e77df4221f_o.jpg)

Cheers,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: bigben on August 14, 2014, 05:30:15 PM
Looking good
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: mhaze on August 15, 2014, 05:16:57 AM
Just WOW!
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: inkydigit on August 16, 2014, 01:40:09 PM
ditto... wowow
8)
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: Mahnmut on August 17, 2014, 06:18:47 PM
Thanks!

I experimented with .exr format for the first time, the result is a bit psychedelic:
https://flic.kr/p/oLJZKv

Cheers,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: bigben on August 17, 2014, 06:57:27 PM
Welcome to the black art of tone-mapping  ;)
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: TheBadger on August 17, 2014, 10:20:43 PM
Quote from: Mahnmut on August 17, 2014, 06:18:47 PM
Thanks!

I experimented with .exr format for the first time, the result is a bit psychedelic:
https://flic.kr/p/oLJZKv

Cheers,
J

I think that is just sweet! A little traditional color correction in post and that would make a really great animation!
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: bobbystahr on June 27, 2016, 12:26:25 PM
Quote from: TheBadger on September 10, 2012, 06:57:30 PM
this is a cool project! Maybe some elements of mans presence?

By the way Jan, did you see this short film Calico found http://vimeo.com/44644178 ?

wow, only took me 4 years to find this, hee hee hee
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: Mahnmut on July 19, 2021, 02:58:03 PM
Hello together,
it has been some time since I posted a green mars,
I tried using better resolution data with mixed success.  This one is the first I deem worthy to post again. Best thing about it is, all "terraforming" is procedural, after I lost my beloved photoshopped green mars map some years ago. Bumpmap and red mars are by Tuomas Kankola, I could not load the newest NASA-release. Still nice to render again. Thanks to WAS for pointing out that most of my technical problems where due to a bug in TG4, TG3 did fine, though not with 10.6 gb of tiff data.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/61177681@N00/51322138536/in/dateposted-public/
Cheers,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: WAS on July 19, 2021, 03:12:51 PM
Nice look for procedural colouring for sure. At least with current TG. If you wanted to do gradient colouring, it's a lot of work. I hope we get a gradient map shader soon. It would be so useful for colouring displacement.

I do feel like the colouring is kinda reversed, where deeper richer colours would be seen by water sources, and lighter paler colouring away from it.
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: Mahnmut on July 20, 2021, 05:46:42 AM
Thanks!
 sadly I do not remember how to post the image directly in the text, something with brackets?

For  a gradient I would  have used maybe five surface shaders with really soft altitude constraints, but the look I was aiming for was rather one with distinct boundaries between what I imagine to be grassy lowlands and forested mid altitudes.
As mentioned, most of my older pics relied heavily on a map that I created in Photoshop and lost, trying to do it proceduraly is more fun though. And more flexible of course.
Best regards,
J
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: Mahnmut on September 15, 2022, 03:17:56 PM
Nothing much thats new, just upscaled versions of old pics:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52357868824_a74702fa0b_k.jpg)Melting (https://flic.kr/p/2nLFLhh) by JT (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61177681@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: Mahnmut on September 15, 2022, 03:18:25 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52357790443_c35b1cfd2a_k.jpg)redmars (https://flic.kr/p/2nLFmYT) by JT (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61177681@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: Mahnmut on September 15, 2022, 03:18:51 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52357790718_de82fe5be5_k.jpg)marspole1 (https://flic.kr/p/2nLFn4C) by JT (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61177681@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: Mahnmut on September 15, 2022, 03:19:16 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52357790768_9a28e5a79c_k.jpg)impactor (https://flic.kr/p/2nLFn5u) by JT (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61177681@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: Mahnmut on September 15, 2022, 03:19:43 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52357790838_7c5c7b98cd_k.jpg)greentest (https://flic.kr/p/2nLFn6G) by JT (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61177681@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: Mahnmut on September 15, 2022, 03:20:11 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52357975875_3a91197373_k.jpg)GasaCrater (https://flic.kr/p/2nLGj6Z) by JT (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61177681@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: Hibernal on October 07, 2022, 06:30:58 PM
Hey, I found your project and this forum by good chance, but I had to create an account just to say thank you for sharing these! (And I hope you don't mind if I borrow them for my D&D game ;D )
Title: Re: Green Mars: update on page 6
Post by: Mahnmut on October 08, 2022, 05:04:54 AM
Hi Hibernal, thanks to you for that feedback and appreciation!
feel free to use my pics as long as its not commercial.
Would you mind telling me (without spoilers of course) about that campaign? D&D on Mars?
Best Regards,
J