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Title: Rockpool...
Post by: dandelO on September 23, 2007, 08:23:48 PM
This is my first real image post over here, I've been recommended to post it here by others.
Usualy I'd shy away from graffitiing this site with my renders because, in truth, I do feel kind of dwarfed by the skill and knowledge of T2 shown by you regular posters here at Planetside, it's a bottomless pit of knowledge and has been a great help to me over the last few months of learning T2, I've spent many hours reading this site. It's great and I thank you all!

So here's my image, any comments/critiques/etc.s would be greatly apprecciated. This is currently the 3rd 'final' version I've made :D
The water transparency method I used was Sonshine777's wet/dry merge shader technique, which he kindly shared with me over at Terranuts.

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Thanks for looking! :)

Title: Re: Rockpool...
Post by: cyphyr on September 23, 2007, 08:35:03 PM
Really Good, hehe I just saw the fish  ! :)
Richard
Title: Re: Rockpool...
Post by: dandelO on September 23, 2007, 08:42:30 PM
Thanks, Cypher! :)

***I should also say that this was made with the free version of the tech preview, no postwork either, it's all T2.
I'd kill for bigger renders, extra AA and pop' limits sometimes but, money is the way of the World... Just not my world at the moment ;)
Title: Re: Rockpool...
Post by: Mahnmut on September 23, 2007, 10:27:01 PM
Wow.
Who´s dwarfing now?
where can I find this transparent Water method?
And the fish, if you don´t mind?
best regards, Jan
Title: Re: Rockpool...
Post by: Seth on September 24, 2007, 01:47:53 AM
yeaaah already told you : niiiice dandel0
Title: Re: Rockpool...
Post by: old_blaggard on September 24, 2007, 08:51:16 AM
Very nice work!  I think this image would be even better if instead of a flat seabed you put a layer of small rocks.
Title: Re: Rockpool...
Post by: rcallicotte on September 24, 2007, 09:06:15 AM
I like it a lot.  My only suggestion is to have the rocks look more like real rocks.  Those sharp edges contribute to its slight (and I do mean very slight) fakeness.  Otherwise, this is one of the best I've ever seen.  Hope you understand my pickiness isn't that I don't think it's excellent work, but a desire to see it be everything it can be.
Title: Re: Rockpool...
Post by: dandelO on September 24, 2007, 10:05:10 AM
Thankyou for your input everyone. :)
Jan, the water technique is from Sonshine777 and is posted somewhere in here. And the fish are DAZ Studio content trout... Yes, I've scaled them down a fair bit. ;)
Title: Re: Rockpool...
Post by: sonshine777 on September 24, 2007, 10:11:40 AM
Thanks for sharing your image here, I was hoping that you would. You have done a great job combining the two images. As I stated over at Terranuts a little mor texture to the rocks and this image will be over the top awesome! :)!
Title: Re: Rockpool...
Post by: dandelO on September 24, 2007, 10:46:09 AM
Aw, man! This is the textured version. Bummer! Back to the drawing board...  :D

Here's the last one that you suggested adding some rock detail to... [attachimg=#]
Title: Re: Rockpool...
Post by: sjefen on September 24, 2007, 11:18:19 AM
Very good, but I like the first one best.
Title: Re: Rockpool...
Post by: sonshine777 on September 24, 2007, 11:45:48 AM
Quote from: dandelO on September 24, 2007, 10:46:09 AM
Aw, man! This is the textured version. Bummer! Back to the drawing board...  :D

Here's the last one that you suggested adding some rock detail to... [attachimg=#]

Sorry about that, I didn't pay attention to the details, you did make a huge improvement over the first image. My bad! Have you posted it over at Terranuts yet?
Title: Re: Rockpool...
Post by: dhavalmistry on September 24, 2007, 12:03:50 PM
add caustics and it will be a perfect render!
Title: Re: Rockpool...
Post by: rcallicotte on September 24, 2007, 02:35:32 PM
I like the detail, but I'm worried that the sharp edges on the top of the rocks look unreal.  Or maybe someone has seen rocks like these and I've been sheltered from it?  Anyway, I love it otherwise.  Both renders look very good.
Title: Re: Rockpool...
Post by: dandelO on September 24, 2007, 02:59:37 PM
No no, I think I might have confused people here in my wording of my last post.

I meant, the first image in this thread is the current final textured, version 3.

The second one I posted here (in my last comment, with the 'plastic' stones) was version 2, to show the comparison to what it was before.

Sonshine: Yes I've posted it at TN! Lol, you've already voted on it BEFORE posting here to ask if it was uploaded there! Lol! ;)
Title: Re: Rockpool...
Post by: sonshine777 on September 24, 2007, 03:32:31 PM
Quote from: dandelO on September 24, 2007, 02:59:37 PM
No no, I think I might have confused people here in my wording of my last post.

I meant, the first image in this thread is the current final textured, version 3.

The second one I posted here (in my last comment, with the 'plastic' stones) was version 2, to show the comparison to what it was before.

Sonshine: Yes I've posted it at TN! Lol, you've already voted on it BEFORE posting here to ask if it was uploaded there! Lol! ;)

It's been a long day, I was up at 4:00 went down to the shop where I have been working on the canoes to put a coat of epoxy on one of the paddles so I can work on it tonight after work. I don't think I was fully functioning when I commented earlier. ;D

Plus have you been having problems posting comments for images on Terranuts?
Title: Re: Rockpool...
Post by: dandelO on September 24, 2007, 06:20:30 PM
No probs posting messages, no. The layout and buttons are a little different in the galleries I noticed but I've not had any problems. Maybe just a little buggy in the transition?
Im missing the zoom in effect from the gallery fullsize views though. :(
Title: Re: Rockpool...
Post by: TarsTarkus on September 25, 2007, 05:19:37 PM
Nice subject and composition. Excellent color mapping on the rocks. Works wonders with Sonshine777's wet/dry shader - creating the illusion of algal growth on the underwater portion of the rocks. This is very convincing indeed. The texturing is much better on your latest image. This conveys a more natural feeling of age and weathering on the surface of the stones. I have to agree with Calico though. Several of the above-water rocks have troubling geometry to them. I Just don't see this formation of rock occur naturally, especially given its immediate environment. This causes a slight disconnect from what i find otherwise to be a very aesthetically pleasing and convincing image. Nice work!