Planetside Software Forums

General => Image Sharing => Topic started by: bobbystahr on January 28, 2019, 11:37:51 PM

Title: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: bobbystahr on January 28, 2019, 11:37:51 PM
This is a .ter file I tried when TG first came out and noticed it again...I think the AZ together attracts my eye. Anyhow having been in this for years now I took another crack at it...Liking it so far but spotted some 'tearing' in a few places. No idea why that is as I added no displacement to the DEM based .ter file, the foreground Pine Tree is by Walli, and both grass populations from Dune's free pack, ver, 5 and 10 and an XFROG Bishop Pine population on the cliffs. C&C as always is welcome....
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: Dune on January 29, 2019, 03:23:13 AM
Nice one, Bobby. Except voor the sky (too wild), and the trees on the scree slopes. I would move them down a bit. Some waterplants along the shores here and there?
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: mhaze on January 29, 2019, 05:55:14 AM
Definitely worth some more work - It's an excellent composition.
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: bobbystahr on January 29, 2019, 11:09:16 AM
Quote from: Dune on January 29, 2019, 03:23:13 AM
Nice one, Bobby. Except voor the sky (too wild), and the trees on the scree slopes. I would move them down a bit. Some waterplants along the shores here and there?

Thanks Ulco...agree the sky was a [lace holder and the trees, well they're restricted by slope and there's not a lot of level landings..if I increase the slope many wind up 1/2 embedded in the cliff...and sigh, most of my good plants are stuck on the 'boat anchor'. Was going to get it finally to the shop today(might be a video card as at last start up couldn't find the monitor and went into a clicking cycle I'd not experienced yet)but it's -34 C./-29.4 F. as I type over morning coffee. My pal's auto refuses to start...wish I was actually in Antelope Canyon atm...at least I'd be warm
complaints over...sorry...it's the c c c c cold talking.
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: Dune on January 29, 2019, 12:17:34 PM
Minus 34  :o That's quite awful, though frost can be so beautiful. Indeed, better render nice desert-like scenes!
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: bobbystahr on January 29, 2019, 12:19:13 PM
Quote from: Dune on January 29, 2019, 12:17:34 PM
Minus 34  :o That's quite awful, though frost can be so beautiful. Indeed, better render nice desert-like scenes!

that's a plan I have in mind heh heh...might help my 'interior' temps anyway!
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: sboerner on January 29, 2019, 01:10:13 PM
Nice composition, Bobby. Love the isolated tree.

–29 ℉? Actual temp, not windchill? Brr. We're expecting the Arctic Express to enter our area today, but I don't think we'll be seeing anything like that. Keep thinking warm!
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: bobbystahr on January 29, 2019, 01:31:39 PM
Quote from: sboerner on January 29, 2019, 01:10:13 PM
Nice composition, Bobby. Love the isolated tree.

–29 ℉? Actual temp, not windchill? Brr. We're expecting the Arctic Express to enter our area today, but I don't think we'll be seeing anything like that. Keep thinking warm!



Thanks man...stil tweakin but got 2 CTDs in a row so will be moving to a suggested desert scene to warm my mind hee hee hee...Doin' my best...plan for today is stay indoors heh heh heh
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: Dune on January 30, 2019, 02:18:48 AM
Turn off the cooling of your CPU and render away  ;D Keeps the house warm maybe.
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: bobbystahr on January 30, 2019, 03:23:31 AM
Quote from: Dune on January 30, 2019, 02:18:48 AM
Turn off the cooling of your CPU and render away  ;D Keeps the house warm maybe.

warm in here....I have a high efficiency gas forced air set to 71 F. so it's comfortable. It's the going out part I'm avoiding...except for the Tues. Nite Jam I just returned from. But I was picked up and dropped off so the cold exposure was limited heh heh heh
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: DocCharly65 on January 30, 2019, 04:53:23 AM
Hey what a nice strategy to keep the house warm :)
In my "Terragen-office" I have swiched radiator off... the cpu's do all the work ;D

I agree with the others ... some work on the clouds but the rest is a beautiful composition!
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: DannyG on January 30, 2019, 08:25:01 AM
I remember this terrain, from Chronor's old site I believe. Mimic above comment, very nice Bobby
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: bobbystahr on January 30, 2019, 10:57:17 AM
Quote from: DannyG on January 30, 2019, 08:25:01 AM
I remember this terrain, from Chronor's old site I believe. Mimic above comment, very nice Bobby

Thanks for that Danny, I've had it so long I forgot where it came from...thanks for the prop as well
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: luvsmuzik on January 30, 2019, 11:56:26 AM
Feel the heat. Having some three dog nights here also! ;D
Good one!
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ_ some info
Post by: bobbystahr on January 30, 2019, 03:27:35 PM
I googled Antelope Canyon AZ and got this link
https://sketchfab.com/models/c53e150ff9904a40b1973c0877d0dcfb

never knew it ended in a dam
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ_FINAL
Post by: bobbystahr on January 30, 2019, 06:52:49 PM
Well here tis with all suggestions applied and an added 'hero' tree to keep that lonely old pine company.  Both trees by Walli as well as the rush grass along the banks.Grasses as said before from Dune's free pack and the tree pop from XFROG.
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: RichTwo on January 30, 2019, 06:56:34 PM
I'll agree it's a fine start, Bobby.  Yeah, tone down the altocumulus a tad.  But that's my kind of desert scene!
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: Dune on January 31, 2019, 02:32:40 AM
Developing fine, one of your better renders, Bobby. Keep it up. What I'd suggest is more patchiness in the water, and smaller patches (10-20m) so it seems water is quite still, but with smaller areas of wind blowing up small wavelets. Makes the reflection smoother also, which you can increase by using a reflective shader (smooth settings at 0.004). Also I'd suggest setting rotation to the shrub on top of the rocks. I often set rotation to 1, and angles to 10/10 or so.
The shore grasses are really nicely placed.
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: bobbystahr on January 31, 2019, 02:40:28 AM
Quote from: Dune on January 31, 2019, 02:32:40 AM
Developing fine, one of your better renders, Bobby. Keep it up. What I'd suggest is more patchiness in the water, and smaller patches (10-20m) so it seems water is quite still, but with smaller areas of wind blowing up small wavelets. Makes the reflection smoother also, which you can increase by using a reflective shader (smooth settings at 0.004). Also I'd suggest setting rotation to the shrub on top of the rocks. I often set rotation to 1, and angles to 10/10 or so.
The shore grasses are really nicely placed.

" the shrub on top of the rocks."...there are only grass pops and the one tree pop...do you perhaps mean the greenery around the tree? that is grass 10.

crashing now but will check back when I get up
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: Dune on January 31, 2019, 02:45:21 AM
Well I mean this stuff. The horizontal dark areas can be avoided, IMO.
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: bobbystahr on January 31, 2019, 11:09:39 AM
Quote from: Dune on January 31, 2019, 02:45:21 AM
Well I mean this stuff. The horizontal dark areas can be avoided, IMO.

Yeah that was bugging me as well...that's Dune grass 5 by the way so I'll have to figure some other way to get rid of those. They've bugged me since I did em and no seed seemed to help.
Just did another test and got a CTD event...sigh.Will keep trying for another wee while before I move on to something else to refresh my brain...stuck in a rut it seems.
Still testing and it seems that the DEM contains strata displacement in those areas...
I could possibly raise the upper limit of the tree pop to mask that pattern out while keeping the veg density which I like

Rendering with raised tree pop atm and so far, so good..

Cancelled out of that as I'd forgotten to tweak the water...workin' on that now
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ_New Version Final
Post by: bobbystahr on February 01, 2019, 12:45:07 AM
Well here she is, I think I got it all......
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: DocCharly65 on February 01, 2019, 01:40:23 AM
Looks very good now! I like it.
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: Dune on February 01, 2019, 01:43:55 AM
Echo that!
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: bobbystahr on February 01, 2019, 03:06:30 AM
Thanks guys.. was worth the effort...
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: sboerner on February 01, 2019, 10:47:29 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: bobbystahr on February 01, 2019, 12:04:36 PM
Quote from: sboerner on February 01, 2019, 10:47:29 AM
Nice!

Thanks, for me it's the 2 Walli hero type trees that made it pop for me...He's one talented veg modeler...and these he gave away...most generous....
Title: Re: Antelope Canyon AZ
Post by: Jo Kariboo on February 02, 2019, 10:42:10 PM
Very nice update!