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Title: Threadripper
Post by: sjefen on June 30, 2018, 05:50:42 PM
Hi guys,


I just ordered myself a new PC with AMD's Threadripper 1950X.

The second gen Threadrippers have just been announced, I know, but I can't wait for
that, and I got a pretty good deal on this one.

I've had a lot of problems with my computer lately and haven't been able to
do much work with Terragen cause of blue screens and other crashes, but I hope
this is gonna put me back to work with the stuff I love. I can't wait to test this out.
My current computer is a very old i7. I think it's the first gen, so this is hopefully
going to be an awesome experience.


Cheers,
Terje
Title: Re: Threadripper
Post by: Dune on July 01, 2018, 01:11:27 AM
Congratulations. I'm sure it'll be a pretty thrilling experience. Can't wait to hear how it works, and see some renders by you again.
Title: Re: Threadripper
Post by: archonforest on July 01, 2018, 03:25:25 AM
Sounds like you got a monster there! Congrat for the new rig!
Title: Re: Threadripper
Post by: ajcgi on July 03, 2018, 07:56:31 AM
Is this one that comes as a whole or will you put it together yourself?
Title: Re: Threadripper
Post by: sjefen on July 03, 2018, 02:41:37 PM
Quote from: ajcgi on July 03, 2018, 07:56:31 AM
Is this one that comes as a whole or will you put it together yourself?

I have chosen the parts myself, but the company I'm ordering from is putting it together for me.
Title: Re: Threadripper
Post by: Oshyan on July 03, 2018, 05:26:56 PM
Looking forward to the benchmarks. From what I've seen and heard it should be a very, very good Terragen machine. :)

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Threadripper
Post by: sjefen on July 03, 2018, 05:57:22 PM
Quote from: Oshyan on July 03, 2018, 05:26:56 PM
Looking forward to the benchmarks. From what I've seen and heard it should be a very, very good Terragen machine. :)

- Oshyan

I hope so. I feel like a little kid just days before Christmas. My old computer was driving me nuts and I think this one is gonna be something else  :)
Title: Re: Threadripper
Post by: ajcgi on July 04, 2018, 05:43:36 AM
Quote from: sjefen on July 03, 2018, 02:41:37 PM
Quote from: ajcgi on July 03, 2018, 07:56:31 AM
Is this one that comes as a whole or will you put it together yourself?

I have chosen the parts myself, but the company I'm ordering from is putting it together for me.

Nice. I think that's the route I would take next time too.
Title: Re: Threadripper
Post by: sjefen on July 07, 2018, 06:35:55 PM
Quote from: Oshyan on July 03, 2018, 05:26:56 PM
Looking forward to the benchmarks. From what I've seen and heard it should be a very, very good Terragen machine. :)

- Oshyan


Any new benchmarks comming for TG4 soon?
Title: Re: Threadripper
Post by: Oshyan on July 08, 2018, 12:15:21 AM
It's on the task list, but not top priority. Should happen within a couple months though.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Threadripper
Post by: digitalguru on July 08, 2018, 08:15:51 PM
I've got one - it's amazing - got 2:12 on Terragen benchmark the other day.

Make sure you've got some decent cooling for it though - it gets very hot if you're overclocking - mine is set to 3.8 ghz and just nips at the max temp for the CPU

Though as the UK is going through an uncommon heatwave at the moment. I've got all the fans maxed out to keep it tidy :-)
Title: Re: Threadripper
Post by: KlausK on July 09, 2018, 03:30:58 AM
That`s quite fast, nice!

I just rendered the old benchmark scene in TG 4.21 again.
It took 4m00s on average. TG 4.01 rendered the scene in 3m42s on average.
Wouldn`t have thought that.
CHeers, Klaus
Title: Re: Threadripper
Post by: ajcgi on July 09, 2018, 06:05:09 AM
Quote from: digitalguru on July 08, 2018, 08:15:51 PM
I've got one - it's amazing - got 2:12 on Terragen benchmark the other day.

Blooming eck, that's decent.
Title: Re: Threadripper
Post by: SILENCER on August 03, 2018, 06:28:37 PM
We have a couple of threadripper 1950s here. They do pretty well with Terragen 4.2.
Bang for the buck, that AMD box could really be a win for the home user.

But the intel i9 7980XE machines are eclipsing them in sheer brute CPU force.
The alpine shader screams bloody murder now in 4.2 and the liquid cooled intel chip.
One of the intel boxes however, crashes like all hell on Terragen scenes. It's bizarre.

Steady wins the race...
Title: Re: Threadripper
Post by: bobbystahr on August 03, 2018, 06:32:30 PM
"Steady wins the race..."  mainly why, when I've had a choice since win NT, that I've gone with AMD
Title: Re: Threadripper
Post by: WAS on August 04, 2018, 01:22:59 AM
Quote from: SILENCER on August 03, 2018, 06:28:37 PM
We have a couple of threadripper 1950s here. They do pretty well with Terragen 4.2.
Bang for the buck, that AMD box could really be a win for the home user.

But the intel i9 7980XE machines are eclipsing them in sheer brute CPU force.
The alpine shader screams bloody murder now in 4.2 and the liquid cooled intel chip.
One of the intel boxes however, crashes like all hell on Terragen scenes. It's bizarre.

Steady wins the race...

Isn't liquid cooling a bad idea for rendering? It has a heat gradient far slower than fans, while temperatures it can hold more accurately. But like a radiator on a car, it takes time for it to catch up to temperature spikes if the fluid warms up.

I know my friends old gaming PC crashed a lot with TG and we figured it was his liquid cooling and ATX case. When the render got heavy, and CPU spiked in temp it took almost half a minute for the temp to even out (stop dropping) when the fans kicked in on the radiator. In contrast, when my fans kick on, temp responds immediately and drops to a stable range within seconds.

I'm also bias towards water cooling for this aspect. Doesn't seem rational at all to have a system respond so slowly to heat spikes. Especially water cooled GPUs, that inherently get super hot and fluctuate all over the place. Better to just have good air flow and AC environment.

Afterall, air, copper, and aluminum have far superior thermal conductivity.
Title: Re: Threadripper
Post by: SILENCER on August 04, 2018, 10:02:09 AM
We're rendering in Octane as well on a large array of GTX 1080 Tis
So the GPUs are also liquid cooled.
We hit these things hard all day, every day.
We'll take any advantage to keep the systems running.
Lots of hot air being blown out of the exhaust ports of these boxes, it's nuts.
Not as crazy as a real render array and a room full of Isolons. That's just bananas when you go into those rooms. You need to wear ear protection.

If you're a hobbyist, buy the AMD, keep it cool, and save some much needed dough.
If you freelance, whatever, and have real deadlines where money at reputation are at stake, have a real VFX machine built so you can sleep at night.
Title: Re: Threadripper
Post by: WAS on August 04, 2018, 01:46:22 PM
Quote from: SILENCER on August 04, 2018, 10:02:09 AM
We're rendering in Octane as well on a large array of GTX 1080 Tis
So the GPUs are also liquid cooled.
We hit these things hard all day, every day.
We'll take any advantage to keep the systems running.
Lots of hot air being blown out of the exhaust ports of these boxes, it's nuts.
Not as crazy as a real render array and a room full of Isolons. That's just bananas when you go into those rooms. You need to wear ear protection.

If you're a hobbyist, buy the AMD, keep it cool, and save some much needed dough.
If you freelance, whatever, and have real deadlines where money at reputation are at stake, have a real VFX machine built so you can sleep at night.

That may just be bad server Management?? Not trying to be rude but I used to  work for Redmond Ridge and they have a nice farm, and it's about 40 degrees in the room, all on force air with AC.  Course MS has lots of money to throw away.

Exhausts were sure warm but not hot, and the air being used to cool was already at a cool temp.