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Title: Zlain's Iceland Render v9
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on January 10, 2015, 01:21:15 AM
My Iceland entry
wip

a meadow like scene

Comments & suggestions welcome.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render
Post by: Dune on January 10, 2015, 02:26:20 AM
It's a nice meadow, and the moist air is great, but I suggest making it more typical of Iceland, so add at least something that makes you think of Iceland right away (lava area, caldera in distance, black piece of beach, steaming pool....).
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render
Post by: TheBadger on January 10, 2015, 06:20:25 AM
... A viking boy and girl on a nice picnic  ;D Great start man. I liked your road from last time a lot, looking forward to seeing you work through this one too.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render
Post by: inkydigit on January 10, 2015, 07:34:06 AM
great start indeed,
I echo Ulco and Michael... love the heavy mist/low cloud!
:)
J
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render
Post by: DannyG on January 10, 2015, 09:30:47 AM
Very nice base Lane ! Be watching this one for sure
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render
Post by: Kadri on January 10, 2015, 11:57:43 AM

Looks good Lane.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render
Post by: choronr on January 10, 2015, 01:30:41 PM
You've captured the feel and look to Iceland's environment very well; now to create a point of interest as suggested.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on January 10, 2015, 04:02:24 PM
new test render

I didnt like the way the grass looked on the slopes so i changed them with a distribution shader.

ive made the background a little more visible, cause I plan to add another cloud layer (storm cloud), might change the sun position too.

ill also add a rock into  the meadow.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render
Post by: Oshyan on January 11, 2015, 02:17:40 AM
The latest draft is definitely zeroing in it more, I think. How tall are those mountains though? Also take care your lighting doesn't get too flat with the mist in the sky. It's a nice element, that fog, but it could mess up your lighting is all. I see there are some small breaks in it, so perhaps that will be enough, or you can increase the break-up if needed. I would avoid use of multiple light sources to compensate, if possible.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render
Post by: Dune on January 11, 2015, 02:56:34 AM
I liked the first clouds better.
Title: Zlain's Iceland Render v3
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on January 12, 2015, 12:41:55 PM
New iteration
rendertime - 4:42:26s

i like this one more personally.

objects used

NWDA grass3 - v7, v5, v4, v3
Silva 3D rapeseed flowers v1, v3

(terrain is a heightfield crafted in GeoControl2)
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render
Post by: Dune on January 12, 2015, 12:43:34 PM
Huge improvement on the sky. Some more diversity in rocks and grass... getting perfect!
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render
Post by: Oshyan on January 12, 2015, 02:33:28 PM
I agree with Dune, looking very nice, and the sky and background improvement is notable. You have a pretty good range of contrast now, but the foreground still seems a bit flat to me. This kind of lighting is normal on an overcast day of course, so maybe it's just how it's got to be, but I'm curious to see if it can be tweaked just a bit.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render
Post by: choronr on January 12, 2015, 04:25:27 PM
The point of interest now is the foreground field with a typical Iceland atmosphere. I think you still need a point of interest, perhaps in the foreground. Suggest you maybe review many of the images given here by Oshyan; and, many others you could Google. Maybe some horses grazing in the foreground; mountain goats or other.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on January 13, 2015, 10:56:42 PM
added a rock/boulder, just a small change.
still working on it.

Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v4
Post by: Oshyan on January 14, 2015, 02:04:49 AM
I think it's an improvement. Maybe the smaller foreground rocks need a little more detail/roughness?

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v4
Post by: Dune on January 14, 2015, 03:02:15 AM
Right. Or zoom in a little so the big rock is more in front. Nice rock. Perhaps one little shrub beside it in its shelter, visualizing the harsh circumstances...
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v4
Post by: masonspappy on January 14, 2015, 05:53:13 AM
Good idea. Gives a better sense of depth perception
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v4
Post by: DannyG on January 14, 2015, 09:19:01 AM
I like the additional rocks and threatening sky. Coming along nicely
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v4
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on January 14, 2015, 06:20:43 PM
Added some of Dunes heather tgo's and moved the rock closer.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v4
Post by: choronr on January 14, 2015, 07:04:35 PM
Very good with the heather addition; and, the rock almost looks like a piece of petrified wood.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v4
Post by: TheBadger on January 14, 2015, 11:38:12 PM
That rocks looks really very good. Only thing is the texture is low rez.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v4
Post by: Dune on January 15, 2015, 02:47:35 AM
Looks like a sculpted rock (obj), and indeed needs some additional finer texture. But a very nice rock.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v4
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on January 15, 2015, 12:59:45 PM
yeah the texture does look a bit blurred on the rock, apparently the color map texture on the rock is 6144x6144px.  ???
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v4
Post by: Dune on January 16, 2015, 03:48:12 AM
Why not replace it totally by procedural textures (throug transform shader world position)?
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v4
Post by: Walli on January 16, 2015, 05:13:08 AM
is it this one?
http://wallis-eck.de/2013/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/boulder01_v1_render-592x444.jpg
I used the rock here for example: http://www.wallis-eck.de/2013/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/invasion.jpg and it is not blurry.

Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v4
Post by: Oshyan on January 17, 2015, 12:22:45 AM
UV mapping issue perhaps?

-Oshyan
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v4
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on January 17, 2015, 02:06:57 PM
could be, its not that the texture looks too blurred just a little blurred.
Quote from: Oshyan on January 17, 2015, 12:22:45 AM
UV mapping issue perhaps?

-Oshyan
i'll do a close up render  of the boulder in question, then ill post it on here.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v4
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on January 17, 2015, 04:59:56 PM
ok, it looks fine close up.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v4
Post by: Oshyan on January 17, 2015, 05:13:09 PM
Interesting. It almost looks like the bump map resolution is higher than the color map resolution.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v4
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on January 17, 2015, 05:31:14 PM
the bump/displace map are the same resolution, but the bump/displace map is actually larger in file size.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v4
Post by: Walli on January 17, 2015, 06:17:00 PM
I am not sure, if I ever used that rock inside TG and of course there is a limit on how close you can get - as always with bitmap based materials - but overall this looks to blurry in my eyes, I need to check this
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v4
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on January 24, 2015, 11:16:46 PM
Made some localized cloud changes, as well as changes to population masking.

Quote from: Oshyan on January 14, 2015, 02:04:49 AM
I think it's an improvement. Maybe the smaller foreground rocks need a little more detail/roughness?

- Oshyan
I have issues with the fake stone shader complex, I have problems getting them to look right usually cant get the texturing / diffuse color right.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v7
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 01, 2015, 05:59:08 PM
Replaced the Bolder rock with a hero rock, made some other changes as well
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v6
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 04, 2015, 02:23:49 PM
trying a render with DOF
added another small rock with some new flowers.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v6
Post by: Oshyan on February 04, 2015, 03:12:52 PM
Improving all the time. I did like having more smaller rocks around though...

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v6
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 04, 2015, 03:17:11 PM
well then it looks like ill have to get work on adding some more rocks ;)
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v6
Post by: choronr on February 04, 2015, 06:46:04 PM
Zlain, this looks very promising ...good job.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v7
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 04, 2015, 09:00:59 PM
The lighting in this one is more to my liking (in the background)
I like the smaller stones in this one, over the fake stone complex i was using before.

going to make some more refinements tonight and do a more larger high quality render.

C&C welcome.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v7
Post by: Oshyan on February 04, 2015, 09:10:06 PM
Mmm, yes. Yes indeed. Liking this quite a bit now. Only thing I'm not totally onboard with is the fuzzy/soft background, and I say that not just because of DoF in the previous version (which I assume you'll be bringing back), but also even in this version the background mountain textures seem to be fuzzy. Any way that can be roughed up a little, given a bit of extra detail? Otherwise looking great. :)

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 05, 2015, 12:30:35 PM
decided not to use DOF in this one.
the detail is better in this one

C&C welcomed
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: choronr on February 05, 2015, 12:53:04 PM
Very good improvement!
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Artby on February 05, 2015, 03:20:33 PM
Nice one!
Maybe the yellow of the flowers is a bit to bright/saturated to looks realistic. The mountain on the left seems a bit pale and blurry, I would try to make it a bit more contrasted or with more fractal details. Love the right part. Keep going !
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 05, 2015, 04:54:17 PM
Quote from: Artby on February 05, 2015, 03:20:33 PM
Nice one!
Maybe the yellow of the flowers is a bit to bright/saturated to looks realistic.
yeah i was wondering about that.
turns on the diffuse value was too high, it was set to 1 (I didn't do that)
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: TheBadger on February 06, 2015, 04:25:47 AM
I like it. I was curious if there was a way for you to get the sky to touch the ground in some places. I mean where the clouds are right there on the ground, but sorta distributed like how you mix your plants.

What I mean is I think the scene is good, but if you could make some paths through it that are formed by light and shadow and clouds, then I think a pretty place could potentially become sorta mystical/magical. SO where you can see all the way back in a few places but only so far in others due to mist/cloud.

And then also vary your populations like you did in the last contest, which was pretty excellent. TO me this scene is largely going to be about tons of little details. But I am just speculating at what you have in your mind, cause its fun. ;D
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 06, 2015, 09:44:37 AM
Here's a fix for saturation problem I was having before.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 06, 2015, 11:18:54 AM
Quote from: TheBadger on February 06, 2015, 04:25:47 AM
I like it. I was curious if there was a way for you to get the sky to touch the ground in some places. I mean where the clouds are right there on the ground, but sorta distributed like how you mix your plants.

What I mean is I think the scene is good, but if you could make some paths through it that are formed by light and shadow and clouds, then I think a pretty place could potentially become sorta mystical/magical. SO where you can see all the way back in a few places but only so far in others due to mist/cloud.

And then also vary your populations like you did in the last contest, which was pretty excellent. TO me this scene is largely going to be about tons of little details. But I am just speculating at what you have in your mind, cause its fun. ;D
I could probably make another local cloud to make the sky touch the ground. or try the cloud offset functions too... i haven't made much progress with those though.

What do you mean by vary populations? the sizes/distribution, color tint, or was that something else?

i had considered a path... its just a bit tedious. i had decided against it. but i guess i might still have time.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: choronr on February 06, 2015, 11:35:59 AM
You've made some very nice progress Zlain.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 06, 2015, 11:58:09 AM
thanks :)

added a local cloud to go on the ground, now for some tweaking.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: inkydigit on February 06, 2015, 11:58:25 AM
Excellent stuff Lane... Final polish itme!
:)
J
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: TheBadger on February 06, 2015, 07:57:54 PM
QuoteI could probably make another local cloud to make the sky touch the ground. or try the cloud offset functions too... i haven't made much progress with those though.

What do you mean by vary populations? the sizes/distribution, color tint, or was that something else?

i had considered a path... its just a bit tedious. i had decided against it. but i guess i might still have time.

I just mean don't let it stay so perfect and nice everywhere. And for the path, I meant just for the viewers eyes, not a real path. More about depth and blocking with light and shadow. But I know that can be very hard to control in TG. More about adding emotion than terrain.

just thoughts that may be of use to you or not.  :)
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Dune on February 07, 2015, 02:58:14 AM
A small path is not that hard on this terrain, just add a warped soft simple shape on location, and use it to mask out grass and mask in some dirt and stones.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 08, 2015, 12:06:31 PM
I probadly should have posted this before
here's the partial inspiration, the storm clouds was my own idea.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Dune on February 08, 2015, 12:08:49 PM
Great inspiration, so you need some blue flowers, that would really make a difference, I think.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 08, 2015, 12:21:43 PM
I know, I got carried away making this I will have some more flowers in the next iteration i post.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: inkydigit on February 08, 2015, 04:12:55 PM
cool stuff... looking forward to that!
getting carried away is easy sometimes!
:)
J
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: kalwalt on February 08, 2015, 04:22:57 PM
Quote from: Zlain three nine on February 08, 2015, 12:06:31 PM
I probadly should have posted this before
here's the partial inspiration, the storm clouds was my own idea.
Very inspiring image! Never been in Iceland but this contest gave birth to a real curiosity and desire to go there! :) I think you get very close to the mood of this image, want to see the final! :)
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 08, 2015, 08:06:44 PM
crop of the new flowers
(edited pops)
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: choronr on February 08, 2015, 08:56:06 PM
You must be pleased with this addition; very good. Changing the color to a light purple/blue may not be too difficult, maybe you might give it a try.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Dune on February 09, 2015, 02:03:27 AM
Yes!!

By the way:
Quotethis contest gave birth to a real curiosity and desire to go there
This contest is secretly sponsored by the Iceland Tourist Bureau, but you probably knew that  ;)
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: kalwalt on February 09, 2015, 05:30:55 AM
Quote from: Zlain three nine on February 08, 2015, 08:06:44 PM
crop of the new flowers
(edited pops)
Very nice addition! a blue color for the colours will be perfect!

Quote from: Dune on February 09, 2015, 02:03:27 AM
Yes!!

By the way:
Quotethis contest gave birth to a real curiosity and desire to go there
This contest is secretly sponsored by the Iceland Tourist Bureau, but you probably knew that  ;)
AhAh yes! lol!But NWDA must change the awards with some tourist trip gift!
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v9
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 09, 2015, 08:03:29 AM
Did a overnight render to see how things looked with better detail and AA.
render time 5:36:55s, detail .85 AA8
a large amount of instances have been edited.


C&C welcome.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: inkydigit on February 09, 2015, 08:40:28 AM
Looking good Lane, maybe the pink flowers 'pop' a little too much for my taste, maybe drop the saturation of these a little?... Super picky nitpicking!
Lovely render all the same
:)
J
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Dune on February 09, 2015, 09:23:47 AM
Very beautiful. I agree with Inky about the saturation. And what filter do you use, a soft one? I am not extremely keen on that hero rock, it is a bit contorted, and I dont know if rocks like that are found in Iceland. But I'm nitpickin' too  ;)
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 09, 2015, 07:58:28 PM
The AA filter was Cubic b-spline

changed the diffuse back to the default, it looks better now i think.

Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 09, 2015, 11:31:56 PM
Quote from: Dune on February 09, 2015, 09:23:47 AM
Very beautiful. I agree with Inky about the saturation. And what filter do you use, a soft one? I am not extremely keen on that hero rock, it is a bit contorted, and I dont know if rocks like that are found in Iceland. But I'm nitpickin' too  ;)

I'm thinking I'll lower the distortion/contortion and make the cover the top side of the rock and darken the diffuse color of the rock.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Oshyan on February 09, 2015, 11:45:20 PM
Sounds good. And, if you have time, maybe see if you can make a convincing 3D moss population on top of them... :D Maybe use a population of very small, short-bladed Grass Clumps.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 10, 2015, 12:16:44 AM
so that works with sphere objects?
Quote from: Oshyan on February 09, 2015, 11:45:20 PM
Sounds good. And, if you have time, maybe see if you can make a convincing 3D moss population on top of them... :D Maybe use a population of very small, short-bladed Grass Clumps.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: choronr on February 10, 2015, 12:49:18 AM
Hi Lane,

Have a look at this is file sharing: http://www.planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,18457.0.html .

Bob
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Oshyan on February 10, 2015, 01:05:57 AM
Wot ee said. ;)

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: choronr on February 10, 2015, 01:20:42 AM
I still prefer using the NWDA Walli grass clumps on the smaller rock in the file with the Distribution shader..
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Dune on February 10, 2015, 02:14:00 AM
I've made some 'real' 3D grass years ago when we didn't have the rotation feature. Maybe come in handy, though I don't use them anymore. They adapt without setting rotation and extra compute normals. You will have to color them through a transform shader for world variation.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 10, 2015, 09:31:55 PM
I decided to disable the larger distorted rock (I liked actually, but I agree with the comments about it)
and decided to use the other smaller one next to it (moved it to where the first one was) i tweaked the nodes a lot and couldn't get it to look right.

another render coming soon.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 11, 2015, 12:27:19 PM
the new rock.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Artby on February 11, 2015, 01:53:09 PM
Interesting, but feel a bit too "vorony" to me. Maybe you should mix more fractals for the displacement. And about the colour, it is looking very green/cyan for a rock. What are your references for this rock ?
The groundcover vegetation is looking good.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Oshyan on February 11, 2015, 09:02:24 PM
I kind of like the shape of the rock actually, but definitely agree it's a bit too green. Make the green patchier, ideally the green areas should have a slightly different texture than the rock too (i.e. rougher, or finer roughness or something).

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 11, 2015, 11:55:31 PM
damn, I don't have the same rock as i did in that last pic, did alot of tweaking today.
I should have made a backup of it, oh well, it shouldn't be that hard to get a similar shape

I did make a clip of both of those rocks though.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 12, 2015, 11:33:15 PM
different version
i never could get it to look like the last one
i like this one a bit more than the others

C&C welcome
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Dune on February 13, 2015, 02:51:23 AM
I would just use a displacable cube and some PF's, I think you can make more believable rocks then, not so 'crumbly' (sorry). You still have a day, hurry!
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 13, 2015, 11:43:10 AM
hmm... with the displaceable cube objects i find the rocks to be too square like imo.
ive been messing with PFs and redirects and haven't been satisfied with the results

This might be a little controversial, but since the deadline is tomorrow, maybe just get rid of the rock instead, and rearrange the heathers a bit?
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: kalwalt on February 13, 2015, 01:07:24 PM
Quote from: Zlain three nine on February 13, 2015, 11:43:10 AM
hmm... with the displaceable cube objects i find the rocks to be too square like imo.
ive been messing with PFs and redirects and haven't been satisfied with the results

This might be a little controversial, but since the deadline is tomorrow, maybe just get rid of the rock instead, and rearrange the heathers a bit?

I saw your last picture in the facebook terragen galleries, I think that the rocks are ok maybe they need to be a little bit darker, and especially the big one is still a bit too greeny. You can also try to create a rock starting from a sphere adding some displacement with a warped PF , especially good for lava style rocks. Also i think that instead the purple flowers i will use the same but red or blue. I don't know if this can help, hope you find some advice in it. :)
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 13, 2015, 01:14:01 PM
the large rock is a sphere actually, all the rocks are spheres.
i'm aware of the of the colors needing to be darker, thought i fixed that
i could change the tint of flowers too.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: kalwalt on February 13, 2015, 01:19:09 PM
Quote from: Zlain three nine on February 13, 2015, 01:14:01 PM
the large rock is a sphere actually, all the rocks are spheres.
i'm aware of the of the colors needing to be darker, thought i fixed that
i could change the tint of flowers too.
ok, reagarding the colour: could be that is due to my monitor quality, so maybe other people view it in another way. I want to see it finished! ;)
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 13, 2015, 01:25:26 PM
this is from last night

i still have time to do another, this one took about 6hours.

i feel the large rock is a little too bumpy

im currently fixing the issues.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v9
Post by: otakar on February 13, 2015, 06:13:46 PM
You are probably going to want to strangle me, but I must say I liked the prior rock setup better. Something with the whitish rocks providing a nice contrast to the greyish background. I concede that these rocks may fit the subject better though....
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v9
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 13, 2015, 06:36:15 PM
No need for me to strangle you, you havnt crossed me yet ;) ;) :D
Quote from: otakar on February 13, 2015, 06:13:46 PM
You are probably going to want to strangle me, but I must say I liked the prior rock setup better. Something with the whitish rocks providing a nice contrast to the greyish background. I concede that these rocks may fit the subject better though....
no need to worry, i made a clip file of the original rocks before i made all those changes, yes i like them a lot too.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 13, 2015, 06:43:42 PM
some of the flowers in my refrence image were a purple/pink color, i choose those because because they were that color
Quote from: kalwalt on February 13, 2015, 01:07:24 PM
Quote from: Zlain three nine on February 13, 2015, 11:43:10 AM
hmm... with the displaceable cube objects i find the rocks to be too square like imo.
ive been messing with PFs and redirects and haven't been satisfied with the results

This might be a little controversial, but since the deadline is tomorrow, maybe just get rid of the rock instead, and rearrange the heathers a bit?

I saw your last picture in the facebook terragen galleries, I think that the rocks are ok maybe they need to be a little bit darker, and especially the big one is still a bit too greeny. You can also try to create a rock starting from a sphere adding some displacement with a warped PF , especially good for lava style rocks. Also i think that instead the purple flowers i will use the same but red or blue. I don't know if this can help, hope you find some advice in it. :)
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v9
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 13, 2015, 09:05:36 PM
making small tweaks right now, will start the final later tonight.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v9
Post by: Oshyan on February 14, 2015, 02:58:54 AM
Perhaps a late comment, but yes I liked the previous rocks too. I felt they just needed a little tweak here and there, not so much a total redo. So since you still have them, I say load 'em up and see if you can refine a little (or not). The other thing is the whole image now has a yellow-ish tint to it on my monitors. Is that intentional? Also, though some said the flowers were too saturated before, I find them a tad on the dull side now... I know, too many conflicting opinions, hehe. In the end, go with your gut!

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v9
Post by: Dune on February 14, 2015, 03:17:27 AM
My last comment would be the 'puckledness' of the rock. I think rocks lying in all this weather may be worn smoother, at least partially. But I don't know the real thing in Iceland.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v9
Post by: inkydigit on February 14, 2015, 09:53:38 AM
All of these have been in my faves list... I am sure you will pick a winner, good luck Lane!
Cheers Jason
:)
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v9
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 14, 2015, 11:03:11 AM
I dont think so, there's no yellow tint visible on my monitor, both the rapeseed plants & grasses have color tint PFs though.
Quote from: Oshyan on February 14, 2015, 02:58:54 AM
Perhaps a late comment, but yes I liked the previous rocks too. I felt they just needed a little tweak here and there, not so much a total redo. So since you still have them, I say load 'em up and see if you can refine a little (or not). The other thing is the whole image now has a yellow-ish tint to it on my monitors. Is that intentional? Also, though some said the flowers were too saturated before, I find them a tad on the dull side now... I know, too many conflicting opinions, hehe. In the end, go with your gut!

- Oshyan
I thought the old rocks looked cool, I'm temped to switch but I think the rocks need to be darker more volcanic rocks
In Florida we have interesting limestone rock formations that appear on some rivers, the old hero rocks looked reminded me of those limestone formations.
Title: Re: Zlain's Iceland Render v9
Post by: Oshyan on February 14, 2015, 06:19:20 PM
Yes, the old rock but darker would probably be good. The rocks can be quite simple shapes, not too many edges, but a bit darker and covered in lichen and moss is common:
https://plus.google.com/photos/104300081531529253719/albums/6049808465110984305/6049810204108968290

- Oshyan