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Title: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: FrankB on April 05, 2008, 06:49:18 PM
Hi guys,

I've fiddled at bit with the latest version with water transparency, essentially to check out wether it can handle object reflections and remain stable. It's nothing special but I thought you may want to have a look. It also features a childish attempt to mimic underwater bubbles (if you look very closely), but it turns out I need more practice with that. :-)

Anyway, here it is  (1600x1000something, at 0.8 quality. Speed was very acceptable on a dual core)

Regards,
Frank

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Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: moodflow on April 05, 2008, 08:50:41 PM
Looks great Frank. 

I also like the water grass you've used on the banks.  They look pretty realistic.
Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: lightning on April 05, 2008, 09:18:05 PM
 :o NICE!!!!
Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: rcallicotte on April 05, 2008, 09:33:22 PM
Oh, that's nice. 

Thanks for posting, Frank.
Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: Seth on April 06, 2008, 04:42:07 AM
as the others said : good and nice
Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: Kevin F on April 06, 2008, 07:04:03 AM
This looks really good. I like transparent water of course, but also the damp sand at the edge is very effective. Can't wait for this version to be released. Thanks for this.
Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: Will on April 06, 2008, 07:46:47 AM
Nice, thanks for the peak
Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: Phylloxera on April 06, 2008, 09:26:06 AM
Beautiful render, too realistic, I love the plants ! (Xfrog or another !)
The rocks are successful and well integrated into the riverside!
Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: dandelO on April 06, 2008, 04:49:22 PM
Just great!
Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: Mr_Lamppost on April 06, 2008, 05:06:14 PM
Very nice, the best yet.
Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: inkydigit on April 06, 2008, 06:27:39 PM
bang on the money here, Frank ... excellent ... love the reflections! .. cant wait to see more!
Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: joshbakr on April 08, 2008, 12:08:01 PM
Really nice. Plants look really good but I think if you would lighten up on the amount of small stones and add a touch of grit to the high points of the sand  would be even better.
Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: Seth on April 13, 2008, 07:28:40 AM
yeah agree with joshkbar. you should try to apply some (more ?) fractal deformation to the stones and try to add some very small displacement to the ground as if it was some sand or mud ^^
Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: FrankB on April 14, 2008, 04:39:28 AM
thanks for the suggestions, guys, but this was merely a test of the upcoming transparency and volumetric density features.
I haven't invested much time in this at all, and probably never will in this particular one.
I'm delighted though, that you still liked it despite its simplicity and imperfections.

I may revisit a similar scene in the future, though - by which time I'll make sure I pay attention to the "sand" ;-)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Update: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: FrankB on May 06, 2008, 04:15:56 AM
not a teaser anymore, but I stumbled over this image again. I still like the scene somehow and felt I could easily make a few tweaks.
The modifications are rather subtle:
- more detail and smaller stones
- foam/bubble patches on/in the water
- slightly changes sub-surface color
- added specular highlights to the stones

It toook 8 hrs to render on 2 cores at 1600x1024 resolution.
As I said, nothing special, but I thought you may like it this way.

Cheers,
Frank

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Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: monks on May 06, 2008, 04:27:35 AM
Amazing...it even looks like you have specs of foam on the water surface- don't know if that was intentional. The only weakness is the dirt- still a little undeveloped compared to the rest of the scene- trying to keep up with the amazing water shaders now! :)...but this is just a test as you said.


monks
Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: FrankB on May 06, 2008, 05:44:29 AM
Hi monks,

yes the specs of foam are indeed intentional on the new render. It's simply a billowry water density function with the right sizes and white color. Anyone can do it in just 1 minute.
About the dirt... hm, I find it rather convincing especially on the left side mid-ground.
What is it that that you would improve specifically?

Thanks,
Frank
Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: monks on May 07, 2008, 11:18:52 AM
Wow, that simple? It's one of those details that recalls memories of seeing things like that.

I dunno, it seems odd that the dirt underwater is lighter than the dirt out of water. It's usually the other way around- well saturated material anyway; like the large rocks are. It looks as if your surfaces have been inverted: large rocks dark->light, etc. I guess if you're looking to show off the transparency, you want to be able to see the detail of the surfaces underwater, so I'm thinking that was the reason you chose lighter surfacing. Or maybe you'll tell me that TG did that itself with it's physically accurate light modeller  ;D

monks
Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: FrankB on May 07, 2008, 11:48:35 AM
yes indeed, the underwater "sand" is lighter than the dirt above the water, but that's intentionally so.
I've seen a stream have lighter underwater material (like sand), whereas above the water, there was a more brownish "soil".
You're right in that this is not usually the case.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: monks on May 08, 2008, 04:59:45 AM
Yeah, I was thinking about that, and the river bed might be subject to very different deposition- maybe there's minerals, etc washed down from elsewhere or algea or whatever.


monks
Title: Re: Another little teaser with water transparency
Post by: Volker Harun on May 08, 2008, 11:22:14 AM
Good one!