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Title: Time to go 64
Post by: MGebhart on August 31, 2010, 04:23:56 PM
Tired of this....time to buy a bigger and better box.
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: choronr on August 31, 2010, 04:27:45 PM
Way to go Marc; consider building your own. This way you don't get all that crap on your system - this is what those commercial guys always do; and, it seems you can never get rid of that stuff. Look into those relatively new SSD drives.
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: RArcher on August 31, 2010, 04:34:31 PM
For what it's worth the scene that crashed looks pretty cool.  :-\
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: Volker Harun on August 31, 2010, 04:45:12 PM
I switched from Win to Mac, using my old Windows license with parallel desktop ... after 2 months with a Mac the time of using this Windows installation went from 99% to about 10% ...
Else agree with choronr about building your own machine.

Regards, Volker
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: cyphyr on August 31, 2010, 05:43:10 PM
Good decision and definitely consider building your own system, take a look at Overclockers  (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/)if your in the UK.
However do remember that even though you will get increaser performance Terragen is still not 64 bit yet (its in development but I don't know how advanced)
Good luck with your new rig
:)
Richard
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: Henry Blewer on August 31, 2010, 06:31:09 PM
In the meantime, go to Microsoft and download their Windows 7 compatibility program. See if your machine will handle 64 bits. I did this and found out it was capable of using a 64 bit OS. I bought Windows 7 (32 and 64 ship together) and have been much happier with my machine.
Tom's Hardware has a fix for setting the Large Address Awareness flag on XP and Vista. This will allow T2, which is built to use this, to address more than 2 GB of ram.
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: MGebhart on August 31, 2010, 09:06:01 PM
I think I found out what lights a fire in you guys.

Great advice. Yes, building my own has always been the option for me. I'll put one together that will have a fire extinguisher mounted on the side. SMOKIN'.

Thanks for the link Bob, I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: choronr on August 31, 2010, 09:32:08 PM
Quote from: MGebhart on August 31, 2010, 09:06:01 PM
I think I found out what lights a fire in you guys.

Great advice. Yes, building my own has always been the option for me. I'll put one together that will have a fire extinguisher mounted on the side. SMOKIN'.

Thanks for the link Bob, I'll check it out.
You're welcome Marc. If you go this route, make sure all components are compatible. Tiger Direct is helpful in this respect. If that link I sent to you still sells the book and/or the CD, get it since it is real helpful - step-by-step. My only area where I needed help was setting up the BIOS.

Make sure you get a full size case for the best cooling. I went with a mid size and are really cramped for room. Lian-Li makes great aluminum cases. As I said before, consider the SSD hard drive; the 'i7' processor and 8 to 12 GB of RAM. SLI (two video cards) should be a consideration. 
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: jaf on August 31, 2010, 10:46:37 PM
Not sure I agree with an SLI configuration, but maybe that will work in the future with openCL (GPU processing.)  I believe it's mostly used for high-end gaming.  It takes a lot of power to run SLI and I don't know of much advantage with 3d apps. like TG2.
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: Oshyan on August 31, 2010, 11:33:41 PM
There's no real advantage in TG2 for SLI graphics cards right now. I wouldn't recommend bothering with the expense for now, but it can't hurt to get an SLI-capable motherboard and power supply - that will only add a few extra dollars. Lian Li does make nice cases, though I personally find them a bit overpriced. Coolermaster has some very nice mid-range cases though...

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: Henry Blewer on September 01, 2010, 10:47:36 AM
CNET has some very helpful reviews on cases, mobos, power supplies, and other hardware. I also like Tom's Hardware site.
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: sjefen on September 01, 2010, 01:00:51 PM
When I saw this thread and the title I hoped it was started by
some of the Planestide staff, but it wasn't. Hehe

Anyway.... 64 bit is the way to go ;)

- Terje
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: Mandrake on September 06, 2010, 12:57:07 PM
Quote from: sjefen on September 01, 2010, 01:00:51 PM
When I saw this thread and the title I hoped it was started by
some of the Planestide staff, but it wasn't. Hehe

Anyway.... 64 bit is the way to go ;)

- Terje

Boy oh boy, so was I......
Win 7/64 helped for a while..
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: Henry Blewer on September 06, 2010, 01:12:01 PM
Maybe turning off double sided polygons in the object dialog might help?
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: MGebhart on September 08, 2010, 03:38:15 PM
This looks like the one. Still doing some home work, but getting closer. I don't think I'll build one due to time constraints.

HP
Operating system: Genuine Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit   
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-980X six-core Extreme Edition [3.33GHz, 1.5MB L2 + 12MB shared L3 cache]   
Memory: 12GB DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM [6 DIMMs]   
Hard drive: 2TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive   
Graphics card: 1.8GB NVIDIA Geforce GTX 260 [2 DVI, HDMI and VGA adapters]   
Primary optical drive: Blu-ray player & Lightscribe SuperMulti DVD burner   
Secondary optical drive:   16x max. DVD ROM (player)   
Networking: Premium Wireless-N LAN card and Bluetooth   
Front Productivity Ports   15-in-1 memory card reader, 1 USB, 1394, audio   
Sound Card: Integrated sound   
Keyboard and Mouse: HP deluxe wireless keyboard & wireless mouse
Duel HP 2310m 23-inch Full HD Widescreen Monitor
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: Mandrake on September 08, 2010, 03:43:10 PM
Only takes 20 minutes to snap that together yourself Marc?
Go price that stuff on Newegg..
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: MGebhart on September 08, 2010, 03:47:19 PM
I'll look into it. I can do 20 min.
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: Hetzen on September 08, 2010, 05:23:16 PM
I priced up a similar spec machine for a colleague at work, and it worked out his quote was pretty much on the nail with Overclockers price, except his was pre-built. I'll find out where he got his from if you like.

Personaly, I've built my last 3 machines from Overclockers, and I highly recomend them. Especially when buying the overclock bundles. If you go that route, try and talk to the tech who's putting your system on the test bench before shipping, he'll give you all sorts of advice on what works best.
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: choronr on September 08, 2010, 06:13:09 PM
The unit looks good Marc. With only one USB port you can plug in a hub if you need more. And, I would strongly suggest that you tell them that you only want your e-mail in 'start-up' ...nothing more! Also, tell them you don't want any extra free software crap or trial stuff ...all of this just slows down your machine and sometimes is almost impossible to get rid of. As for anti-virus, Microsoft has a free version of theirs that works great. I wouldn't use anything else.
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: Henry Blewer on September 08, 2010, 07:34:46 PM
I have been checking out the computers available from these guys. I have been able to configure a machine that has a lot of power for a decent price.
I look for the absolutely necessary parts I need. The bells can be added later.

http://www.velocitymicro.com/
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on September 09, 2010, 09:19:07 AM
i've been to the velocitymicro website a few times and felt they had less options available with their configuration system

i prefer these these guys, i bought my last custom made pc from them.
http://avadirect.com/

their configuration system offers much more choices for hardware components

i'm thinking of getting a i7/1366 motherboard kit (pre-built/tested) from them later this year, (it will be cheaper)
i'll buy the other parts elsewhere
Title: Re: Time to go 64
Post by: TheBlackHole on September 25, 2010, 02:04:50 PM
I've had TG2 crash several times due to too many objects in a population. I guess that's what you get for trying to make a ring system the size of Saturn's rings.  :-[