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Title: Some tree
Post by: Mahnmut on September 30, 2010, 08:48:13 PM
Well, I was to impatient to watch all those leaves being rendered,
so I tried something different:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4111/5040610212_291873e740_b.jpg)

Grass shader by dandelO, tree and bad resolution by me.
And before you ask: it smells like freshly cut grass!
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: dandelO on September 30, 2010, 09:16:34 PM
That's actually a fantastic idea, well done! You could really refine this into some very abstract water-colour type image. I love the originality. 8)
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: Kadri on September 30, 2010, 09:19:51 PM

Interesting and nice , Mahnmut  :)
Reminds me of some images of rock band album covers.
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: RArcher on September 30, 2010, 09:21:33 PM
Amazing!  I would like to see you do the rest of the image in the same style.
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: Saurav on October 01, 2010, 12:40:20 AM
This is actually pretty cool, agree with others about the style.
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: jbest on October 01, 2010, 01:03:24 AM
Awesome. Look's like that tree just caught a bunch of (green) cotton in it's rather small amount of branches. Looks real good!
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Post by: Seth on October 01, 2010, 02:20:27 AM
wow that's really nice ! agree with Ryan, hoping to see more of this style !
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Post by: Walli on October 01, 2010, 02:51:37 AM
very cool idea!
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Post by: inkydigit on October 01, 2010, 04:56:21 AM
like toxic fungus spores....very original and cool!
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: Naoo on October 01, 2010, 05:49:52 AM
Hi

Excellent Idea!
Did you try a lower quality for the cloud,
maybe it look better and faster, if rendered from distance!?


ciao
Naoo
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: nethskie on October 01, 2010, 06:07:19 AM
creative idea!
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: Henry Blewer on October 01, 2010, 06:46:48 AM
If you used a high haze density with this, it would help with the rest of the scene to have a watercolor look.
Great idea. The tree is quite interesting.
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: j meyer on October 01, 2010, 10:49:41 AM
 8) Thumbs up!  8)
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: Mahnmut on October 01, 2010, 06:31:08 PM
Thanks for all your kind words!
Ok, here is the all-cloud version.
Planets surface is disabled, all you see is atmosphere (and the tree object of course.)
It really looks a bit water-colour-like.
What I tried to do was more like surrealism, Magritte for example.
Anyway, it works more or less.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4145/5042338401_1c5104a0f1_b.jpg)

I am not that content with it though, it looks just like a simple tg-landscape made of simple tg clouds- that´s what it is.
If I could get some of the grandeur of the really sophisticated cloudscapes into an interesting groundbased scene, that would be something. Maybe I have to look into the shared clouds thread.
@ njeneb: do you mean the tree model or the cloud idea when you say interesting?
I tried to make a model that looks quite different from different sides to be useful in populations, but didn´t use it that way yet.
Problems with the leaves.
Best regards,
Jan
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: Henry Blewer on October 01, 2010, 07:04:41 PM
Both. But the idea of using a cloud for leaves is more intriguing.
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: Dune on October 02, 2010, 02:51:53 AM
This is a very interesting idea to make vegetation. The grass (if it's indeed clouds) looks quite convincing. You sometimes have these soft fields of flowering grass. Can you elaborate on your procedure? I would guess you don't need much detail to produce the 'grain', hence it wouldn't take ages to render. Would it be possible to have a field of grass like this follow a hill?

---Dune
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: Volker Harun on October 02, 2010, 05:41:07 AM
I really like it ... cool stuff :)
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: Mahnmut on October 02, 2010, 08:49:08 AM
Thanks!

One little crop against the sun:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4106/5043592857_c44b643c89_b.jpg)

@ Dune:
It is indeed clouds, if you doubt it, then maybe the method is useful.
Although the idea to make this image came from some problems with my trees leaves, I never intended to use clouds as real substitute.
I wanted it to look like clouds, and hence used at least medium quality settings.
I used 7 cloud layers (far mountains,hills, far bushes,two layers of "grass", the yellow "flowers" and the tree) and distance shaders, the planets surface is disabled.
I am sure there is some way to make the clouds follow the terrain, maybe dandelOs metaclouds could help. His grass-shader definitly rendered faster than my clouds.
I would rather have it look more like real clouds in the shape of a landscape than looking more "realistic"
Best Regards,
Jan
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: schmeerlap on October 02, 2010, 09:28:28 AM
Looks like you've discovered an effective watercolour technique using low sample (noisy) clouds. Great initiative.

John
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: dandelO on October 02, 2010, 11:37:01 AM
Nice work! Very inventive. 8)

Dune, Hetzen made some very nice clouds which are bound by a heightfield shader. http://forums.planetside.co.uk/index.php?topic=10582.0
And there was also an older thread by mhaze named 'clouds follow terrain' here too... Actually, the continuation thread was better... http://forums.planetside.co.uk/index.php?topic=5307.0
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: Dune on October 03, 2010, 03:00:22 AM
Thanks, Martin, re-found those posts... brain clicking... working on curly waves again now... maybe...
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: Mahnmut on October 05, 2010, 03:48:05 PM
No clouds today- at least no green ones.
The clouds in the skye are by Matt, Altocumulus on page 8 of the cloud library

I had the first of three days of my final exams today
-it went well, and now its gone!
two to go.

This is a more postworked Pic.
I should do more postwork in future. Work is to hard.
I still had some problems with my leaves, but the outcome reminded me of a tree full of glowing bugs like I saw in bolivia.
Tried to emphasize the effect.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/5054632415_ce1ac167ac_b.jpg)

here is the unchanged version, I think the "bug" was sitting in my opacity image.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/5054631325_e985f980fb_b.jpg

Best Regards, Jan
Title: Re: Some tree
Post by: Volker Harun on October 05, 2010, 04:31:37 PM
Hi Jan,

very interesting Point and Field of view ... and I really like the overall colours.

One thing that comes into my mind right now ... it looks like that you use some higher contrast settings, like I do.
Therefore you might want to try some extravagant colour settings inside the tree ,-)