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Title: the wastelands of khann v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 14, 2011, 10:38:29 AM
the wastelands of Khann, located north of Whintozhon forest

i used local clouds with a final density modulator shader.
2 of the nwda wild grasses
the fake stones pack from nwda as well


the original version is 3000x1600 pix.
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/044/7/e/the_wasteland_of_khann_1_by__zagadka_-d39gxk8.jpg

comments & suggestions welcome
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann
Post by: Naoo on February 14, 2011, 12:50:28 PM
Hi zaai999

Great Shaders and Atmo!
For my taste, the image now needs an eye-catcher:
Lighthouse, airship, tree on the horizon...


ciao
Naoo
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann
Post by: mesocyclone on February 14, 2011, 01:19:15 PM
Wow, great atmo! looks like a tornado is gonna form over there...
I like the mood of it. Very good at all...
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 14, 2011, 03:47:15 PM
i was thinking a tree, a dead, leave-less one at that.
likely in the mid ground or background

i wish i could find that tortured hand model i once had...

Quote from: Naoo on February 14, 2011, 12:50:28 PM
Hi zaai999

Great Shaders and Atmo!
For my taste, the image now needs an eye-catcher:
Lighthouse, airship, tree on the horizon...


ciao
Naoo

Title: Re: the wastelands of khann
Post by: DVA99 on February 14, 2011, 07:39:33 PM
Great work on the ground and the clouds look amazing.

Title: Re: the wastelands of khann
Post by: dandelO on February 14, 2011, 08:36:20 PM
Great, man, I think it's like a photo, especially the right-hand side area with the shore and the water, just great.
If you were to crop that area, or, edit the camera to a vertical shot of the right-hand third and render it out, you'd never tell the difference between TG2 and Canon! Fantastic realism. :)
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann
Post by: choronr on February 15, 2011, 01:37:39 AM
Very impressive. Agree about the addition of a leafless tree set in a position to balance the scene.
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann
Post by: Dune on February 15, 2011, 03:15:43 AM
Terrifying atmosphere and surfacing. Great. Not a pleasant place, but these are mostly the most interesting to watch (like ruins). Perhaps some dirty foam near the shore? Or indeed a dead tree or something to give clues to relative size of the landscape.
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann
Post by: ArchitekOGP on February 15, 2011, 05:38:35 AM
This looks really cool, I actually prefer it without anything eye catching, I like the dark water and how the atmosphere is set up.
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann
Post by: ajcgi on February 15, 2011, 10:46:11 AM
Yeah totally agree with that last sentiment. It feels bleak. It reminds me though a little of Sheerness in Kent, UK. It's on the coast, with lots of tiny wooden houses nowhere near each other with nothing but shingle separating them. Oh and a nuclear power station. Which kinda adds to the apolocyptic feel of the place.
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v3
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 15, 2011, 11:11:18 AM
i settled on using j meyer's dead tree, for now at least.

the clouds have changed - i was experimenting with clouds, but in the next one the clouds will be similar to the first one.

Quote from: Dune on February 15, 2011, 03:15:43 AM
Terrifying atmosphere and surfacing. Great. Not a pleasant place
EXACTLY! this is pretty much how i imagined it to look in my mind.
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v3
Post by: Naoo on February 15, 2011, 12:58:32 PM
Hi

Excellent tree!
But, move him "a little" more to the left side and turn the camera back more to the ground. And I found the clouds in image#1 a lot better.


ciao
naoo
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v3
Post by: choronr on February 15, 2011, 01:24:14 PM
Looking much better. The tree falls into the 1/3rds category and looks fine for picture balance. Scenes are always a compromise - you give a little and lose a little. In all, you've done a great job here.
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v3
Post by: Dune on February 16, 2011, 03:28:15 AM
This tree is an excellent choice as it seems tormented by its surroundings. Great!
Title: the wastelands of khann v4
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 16, 2011, 11:47:12 AM
moved the dead tree a tad to the left, changed the clouds.

render time a little over 6hrs.
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v4
Post by: Naoo on February 16, 2011, 01:19:42 PM
Hi

Ahhh. Clouds better :)
But the tree was better before. Now he is out of the 1/3 (choronr said).
SORRY! I meant only a few pixels...
I made a quick overpainting for You (hope this is okay/allowed).
I moved the tree only to the wave on the ground and rotated him a little bit to the right.


ciao
Naoo
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v4
Post by: j meyer on February 16, 2011, 01:46:32 PM
Really cool to see the tree in such an environment!
The original placement was better imo.
As for the clouds i'd try to let them fade into the haze towards the horizon,
but that's just a personal preference.
Keep going,J.
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v4
Post by: Dune on February 17, 2011, 03:01:40 AM
QuoteAs for the clouds i'd try to let them fade into the haze towards the horizon,

And I would keep it this way, as it's more a large oppressing cloud as it is now. And I like the distant sky in this hue.
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v4
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 18, 2011, 02:35:38 PM
i have been messing with the cloud color setting/lighting, at some point i'll post a few of them.
tried to match up the dead tree to its new location as best i could at this time. its harder looking through those smaller quick renders.

i've found copying coordinates from the 3d preview is a good alternative to the place/rest individual objects on the ground feature request ppl bring up sometimes.
not sure if anyone else was doing that, cause i haven't heard anybody bring it up before.

Quote from: Naoo on February 16, 2011, 01:19:42 PM
Hi
Ahhh. Clouds better :)
But the tree was better before. Now he is out of the 1/3 (choronr said).
SORRY! I meant only a few pixels...
I made a quick overpainting for You (hope this is okay/allowed).
I moved the tree only to the wave on the ground and rotated him a little bit to the right.

ciao
Naoo
no problem Naoo.
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v5
Post by: Naoo on February 18, 2011, 05:33:42 PM
Hi zaai999

It's great now  ;D


ciao
Naoo
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v5
Post by: choronr on February 18, 2011, 05:37:07 PM
This one is the best. Colors. lighting - the entire composition is pleasing.
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v5
Post by: inkydigit on February 18, 2011, 06:00:41 PM
bleak...excellent!!
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v5
Post by: Redwolf on February 20, 2011, 08:48:37 AM
not sure about the tree model, perhaps the texture or colouring? looks plastic, something for children to climb in and out at the local beer garden, other than that looking good.
Title: the wastelands of khann with a fir
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 20, 2011, 08:27:50 PM
Quote from: Redwolf on February 20, 2011, 08:48:37 AM
not sure about the tree model, perhaps the texture or colouring? looks plastic, something for children to climb in and out at the local beer garden, other than that looking good.
i kinda had the same feeling about it Redwolf, the thing about that model is it is'nt mapped/textured like the other trees we have.

heres a alternate version with one of the new fir trees - with less needles


comments & suggestions welcome.
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann with a fir
Post by: Naoo on February 21, 2011, 03:51:03 AM
Hi,

the last one looks much more real.
The strange big tree looks more sureal (nice too),
maybe this old tree needs some displacement for the bark.


ciao
Naoo
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann with a fir
Post by: j meyer on February 21, 2011, 10:30:22 AM
The old tree in question is meant to be barkless and polished by weather. ;)
The look of the texture can be changed in TG2 to a certain extent,although
i got to admit that it doesn't lend itself well to putting on a PF for color.
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann with a fir
Post by: airflamesred on February 21, 2011, 03:13:35 PM
I think it needs a deadish tree from a composition point of view, unless you are going with a complete contrast like say one of those japanese blossom things - I suspect not. The other one looked too fat or overscaled or something.
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann with a fir
Post by: masonspappy on February 21, 2011, 07:08:12 PM
Wow, that could easily pass for a photo
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann with a fir
Post by: airflamesred on February 21, 2011, 07:37:23 PM
zaai99 - I just uploaded a tree which may suit at ashundar
Title: the wastelands of khann v7
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 26, 2011, 08:52:41 PM
had some texturing issues with the dead tree from ashundar
i'm using Marc's summer aspen for the tree now, their is currently no displacement on the tree but i'll fix that soon.

C&C welcome.

Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v7
Post by: airflamesred on February 27, 2011, 08:10:33 AM
Sorry about that. On reflection I should have done a bit more with it and tested it
However her's a tgc for it. Delete the default shader. Please don't feel obliged to use it I just felt I should make amends for rushing
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on March 02, 2011, 02:46:37 PM
i'm posting it to DevArt for hi-res & in the png format

http://-zagadka-.deviantart.com/art/The-wasteland-of-Khann-2-199469032

C&C welcome again

this will be the last render for now i think, i'm working on the 2nd location for khann, i should have a new render out by this evening.
expect there to be lava...
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v8
Post by: Naoo on March 02, 2011, 02:58:13 PM
Hi Zaai999

It's realy GREAT!!!


ciao
Naoo
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v8
Post by: Dune on March 03, 2011, 02:38:28 AM
Fabulous! I really like the atmosphere (literally), but I must say, the lone tree looks a bit 'new'. I preferred the gnarled one. But the total image is great.
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v8
Post by: ethan on March 27, 2011, 05:04:43 PM
Dissagree about the tree. You were done with the first image - reminded me of Whistler. Composition looks forced now and the tree detracts from the image.


Great work though!! Sky and ground and sublime

-ethan
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v8
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on March 28, 2011, 09:42:11 AM
Quote from: ethan on March 27, 2011, 05:04:43 PM
Dissagree about the tree. You were done with the first image

-ethan

that's true, but i a tendency to give the ppl what they want, so it sends the scene off on to tangents.
Title: Re: the wastelands of khann v8
Post by: ra on April 10, 2011, 05:58:57 AM
Gerat work! Looks very realistic.