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Title: Green Hill
Post by: Walli on June 02, 2011, 10:30:00 AM
Because I don´t want to wait another year, I now declare the picture as finished ;-)
Actually it´s rare that I go back and finish an older, abandoned project. But this time I had to ;-)

For full resolution, click here: Green hill (http://www.wallis-eck.de/2009/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Greenhill.jpg)

Title: Re: Green Hill
Post by: inkydigit on June 02, 2011, 10:54:45 AM
I am glad you did not lunch this out!!!
:)
Title: Re: Green Hill
Post by: Oshyan on June 02, 2011, 01:22:08 PM
Beautiful work. Glad to see this finished at last! Lots of attention to detail overall. The empty suit of armor is... funny. I guess it's meant that way. ;)

I'd be interested to see this with an "HDR" processing (alternate tone mapping). If you saved the EXR you could play with it in Photoshop or Photomatix. Could be interesting...

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Green Hill
Post by: Walli on June 02, 2011, 03:30:49 PM
I already made some manual tonemapping (terrain brightened and some more contrast), but I can run it through Photomatix. I actually seldom use it for renderings, don´t know why.
Title: Re: Green Hill
Post by: Oshyan on June 02, 2011, 03:37:21 PM
Photomatix is tuned for real-world photo data so the results are often not pleasing, but it's worth a try IMO. :)

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Green Hill
Post by: choronr on June 02, 2011, 11:56:38 PM
I always enjoy seeing uphill compositions. This is very pleasing and inspirational.
Title: Re: Green Hill
Post by: Markal on June 03, 2011, 01:04:08 AM
Sorry, my inexperienced thoughts....
The church in the background looks like it is hand drawn...that is penciled in...I guess not enough detail. The edges are too straight and the perspective seems wrong.
The grasses and flowers are very natural and look fantastic. I really hate to be critical of an artist whose art I have used in my images....your trees, grasses and flowers are extraordinary....please take my criticism lightly. I mean no harm and am trying not to offend....I don't know how else to say it.....Peace!
Title: Re: Green Hill
Post by: Dune on June 03, 2011, 02:31:12 AM
I have a little crit as well, but first of all; I love the vegetation! Superb variation and lighting. I don't see a problem with the church, but the line of grass in the center of the path is too 'obvious' (I don't know how to explain, not integrated enough perhaps) for some reason. And the sky is bleached out in the light parts!
Title: Re: Green Hill
Post by: Walli on June 03, 2011, 03:28:30 AM
Critique is always welcome!
About the path - I guess this is what happens, if a scene gets rusty on the harddisk and then gets finished in a last rush. I can remember that I had this on my list back then, wanted to add some higher grasses in the center and then some more lower populations , meandring along the center. I simply forgot about it.
About the church - actually there are no straight lines and the perspective should be okay. But I feel pretty much the same, the church feels a bit alien on top of the hill!
Title: Re: Green Hill
Post by: Walli on June 03, 2011, 04:20:44 AM
Okay, here is a tonemapped version (Photomatix). Had to fiddle around with the settings, because by default you get really "strange" results.

http://www.wallis-eck.de/bigger3/greenhill_tonemapped.jpg
Title: Re: Green Hill
Post by: Oshyan on June 03, 2011, 01:28:50 PM
Thanks for posting the tone mapped version Walli. I wouldn't say it's an overall improvement, but it does bring some nice dynamics to the scene and get rid of the blown out sky. Of course with a real camera in this scene the sky might well be overexposed without using some kind of tone mapping.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Green Hill
Post by: Henry Blewer on June 03, 2011, 05:58:14 PM
I like the way the sky was handled. The landscape looked better before the tonemapping. The armor is curious, but looks well shaded.
Title: Re: Green Hill
Post by: dandelO on June 03, 2011, 07:10:18 PM
While everything looks really lovely in its own right, Walli, I don't think I quite 'get it'. Hmmm.
I love each separate element that makes up the scene, the plants especially, but I'm not sure I understand the overall meaning. Maybe I'm not supposed to! :D
Beautiful rendering, anyway! :)
Title: Re: Green Hill
Post by: choronr on June 03, 2011, 07:33:57 PM
The meaning I suspect is that a warrior removed his battle garb out of respect before entering into the church. And I believe Walli has made a large improvement here.
Title: Re: Green Hill
Post by: Hannes on June 04, 2011, 12:39:55 AM
The knight has a serious diarrhea and sits behind the camera.
Title: Re: Green Hill
Post by: Dune on June 04, 2011, 02:55:05 AM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Green Hill
Post by: Walli on June 04, 2011, 04:40:19 AM
 ;D
actually that was the second idea I had (a little Plumpsklo instead of the gate). The first one was a bunch of banners and spears lurking over the top of the hill. The third idea was the out for lunch thingy. Probably the last obvious I guess  :)
Title: Re: Green Hill
Post by: Gannaingh on June 04, 2011, 03:50:36 PM
Absolutely beautiful!
Title: Re: Green Hill
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on June 06, 2011, 11:03:24 AM
i think the knight / armor looks a little strange... it looks like he has a trunk for a nose, covered in armor!

i like the tonemapped version best, the clouds are fantastic!