After a bit of toying about with walli's pine and fern, plus some fake stones etc.
Really needs a focal point.
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thats a good start. Probably some rolling hills in the back, a reddish/yellowish population of trees (only in some areas)...or a castle...or a river crossing through the land....
Went for a combo of things here. Moved Edinburgh castle onto a precarious hill, hills in the back.
I'm thinking of putting in individual brown trees rather than whole swathes of them. Either way that's something for another day. [edit] Saying that just remembered the back population is a redder colour.
Kinda slammed this through photoshop at high speed. Stopped just short of lens flare. ;D
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I like the atmosphere's look. The castle seems a little too small. Maybe a closer viewpoint would solve this. It looks like a good model. I would show it off.
Hmmm I'm wondering if I should just scale it up to be honest. Couldn't make my mind up earlier as to whether it was too small or too large etc so left it be.
Also, the model is a rather cunning vfx cheat.
It's a very low poly model, front faces only with a texture projected onto it from a photo taken at a similar angle. I've airbrushed much of the lighting out of the texture so that terragen does the lighting for me. The original photo of the castle has the sun the other side of frame see. ;) That way it's similar to matte painting with the advantage of 3d lighting.
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The effect is surprisingly given considering the limitations of the model. I would have also suggested maybe a different perspective, but given the model detail limitations, getting closer doesn't seem like the solution. I wonder if it wouldn't feel more like I was *in* the scene with a lower camera perspective? As it is it's an odd view to have, I think, unless the viewer happens to be on a tall-but-not-too-tall hill or rock without trees on or around it. Maybe catching the castle well framed through the trees with some more foreground interest would give the image a better balance. As it is there's an awful lot of featureless sky, I think.
All that being said all the elements look very good and realistic so I think it's just a matter of finding your camera framing now.
- Oshyan
I see what you're saying. Perhaps it sits badly as the camera itself is sitting awkardly. I'll have another tinker with it tomorrow I think.
Thanks guys!
Thats pretty cool! Waiting forward for the upgrade =)
Ok, larger castle, lower viewpoint, grassy rocky bit in foreground, fake DOF.
I've taken out the strata shader on the hill now. It was bugging me a bit. Also altered the rock shading to match the castle's stone somewhat.
May need more detail on my castle model looking at it now, plus the AA is a bit low. I did it on 4 for the sake of speed, plus 0.5 detail.
Took 30something minutes to render on my ageing q6600.
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Nicely framed. The vegetation is a bit sparse, seems like a short couple of years after a forest fire. Good quality of the castle, fits the location now much better.
That's cool work :) Nice castle and integration!
I agree the vegetation looks a bit sparse.
It could also do with a bit more optimizing on the shaders and rendersettings.
Looking forward to your next iteration!
Cheers,
Martin
Yeah bringing the camera down broke the illusion of dense forest. It's the same settings as before for the pine population, just a different seed. Will add in more vegetation both tree-scale and smaller.
Looks very nice , Ajcgi !
Nıce to see that very good images can be made with such low poly objects :)
The castle looks very good. The DOF is well done. I think the tree population is fine. I would use more brush and add some flowers perhaps. Maybe some farms or a village.
Fortifications would not have forests nearby. They would want to see the enemy.
This is a much better camera perspective, definitely makes the whole scene more interesting. I agree about the sparse vegetation. Also not so sure about the DoF myself. But otherwise it's really nice looking.
- Oshyan
Ok, have now added a fair amount of vegetation. So much so I had to start switching things off that are no longer seen. ;D I've ditched the DOF effect for now.
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Very nice!
This has really become much better. I would try a large render with detail 0.5 and AA 4. This will be good enough to see if there is more to be tweaked without eyestrain.
Well after some higher resolution rendering I upped the ante on the tree bark texture which was somewhat dark for the situation, dimmed down the castle a bit considering it's mostly in shadow, and a few other bits and bobs.
Scaled it back down, to pass it through my photoshop file, cloned out a few stray branches and the like. Also brightened up the greenery as it was very dark.
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I think you've really given Edinburgh Castle a much nicer setting than the current one we have in real life. i.e. I can't see one alcoholic, junky or even a single artsy-fartsy-jazz-dancing-juggler-poet in any of these shots! ;)
Nice model-from-photo job! :)
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I think you've really given Edinburgh Castle a much nicer setting than the current one we have in real life. i.e. I can't see one alcoholic, junky or even a single artsy-fartsy-jazz-dancing-juggler-poet in any of these shots! ;)
Nice model-from-photo job! :)
That's what is missing. ??? You're right, all the travel shots I have seen of this castle has odd people doing odd things.
This is really looking great at this point. No real crits remaining from me. Very nice. :)
- Oshyan
Having looked at this again on a cheapy dell monitor at work the midtones seem slightly too bright. Anyone else think it looks a tad washed out in the foreground? Wondering if maybe my monitor at home is slightly over the top on gamma correction compared to this one here.
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Having looked at this again on a cheapy dell monitor at work the midtones seem slightly too bright. Anyone else think it looks a tad washed out in the foreground? Wondering if maybe my monitor at home is slightly over the top on gamma correction compared to this one here.
It looks at my monitor the same as you said.
I don't like this in general , but sometimes if the image is a good one like here , it kind of gives it a little too much exposed photo look. :)
Here's a version with a slightly crushed look compared to before. Looks ok on this Dell at least lol.
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My Dell agrees. :D I agree with my Dell. ;) This has become a very cool project. Very nice work!
If you googled, house on a hill, and your image came up in the results, how many people would say, "Wait, thats not real?"
None, thats how many. 8)
Cheers for the comments. Just checked my colour settings here at home and both monitors had incorrect gamma setup. Now I've set these up better I can see the first image was way too light. Maybe Windows7 reset the calibration when I switched the monitors about not so long ago. ???
The vegetation from the distance looks photo real but up-close i can see the polygons. Add some displacement noise to the branches for that added touch then i think you can call this a done deal.