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Title: Forest Clearing V2
Post by: RArcher on September 20, 2011, 12:29:12 AM
Been a long time since I've had time to do any renderings for fun, but here was one from a while back where I was messing around with Walli's pine trees. Finally had a chance to render it. It is a little too big to post here so I have uploaded it to my website:  http://www.archer-designs.com/zp/albums/digital-art/terragen-2/forest-clearing.jpg (http://www.archer-designs.com/zp/albums/digital-art/terragen-2/forest-clearing.jpg)

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Version 2 can be found here:  http://www.archer-designs.com/zp/albums/digital-art/terragen-2/forest-clearing-v2.jpg (http://www.archer-designs.com/zp/albums/digital-art/terragen-2/forest-clearing-v2.jpg)
Title: Re: Forest Clearing
Post by: Kadri on September 20, 2011, 01:02:52 AM

Ryan this looks very good to me :)
Just one question...The stones look like they are floating because of the absent(?) shadows. Is it only me ?
Title: Re: Forest Clearing
Post by: Dune on September 20, 2011, 03:09:32 AM
It's not only you, Kadri. I like the lighting and scene very much, but the 'floating' stones bother me as well. Perhaps they are legless turtles having a communal jump  :D Sorry, Ryan... but I think the stones could be better.
Title: Re: Forest Clearing
Post by: RArcher on September 20, 2011, 12:30:09 PM
Thanks for the suggestions.  I do agree about the stones, I'm not sure they are really floating, but I can certainly try something else instead to see if I can get it to look better.
Title: Re: Forest Clearing
Post by: Luc on September 20, 2011, 02:39:32 PM
Lighting looks a bit like some HDR photos.. I prefer more contrasted pictures... but overall is still very good

luc
Title: Re: Forest Clearing
Post by: sjefen on September 20, 2011, 03:37:53 PM
Hi Ryan,

It's a really great render you have here, but I also agree with the others about the stones.
I think I know how you can fix this tho. What are your GI settings?

Reagrds,
Terje
Title: Re: Forest Clearing
Post by: RArcher on September 20, 2011, 04:34:31 PM
Thanks Luc and Sjefen, I typically always do very contrasty scenes as that is the way my tastes run as well, so for this one I decided to go the opposite direction and perhaps went too far.  I added an extra ambient occlusion environment light that is perhaps lightening the shadows too much. The GI was set at 2/10 which is much higher than I would normally go but I wanted to insure that the shadow areas in the leaves of the close bushes didn't get ugly and "muddy" looking.
Title: Re: Forest Clearing
Post by: :) on September 20, 2011, 07:56:33 PM
most is ok, but shadows needed and some debris under shrubs and trees. They will drop leaves in for real.
Title: Re: Forest Clearing
Post by: sjefen on September 21, 2011, 05:08:09 PM
Quote from: RArcher on September 20, 2011, 04:34:31 PM
Thanks Luc and Sjefen, I typically always do very contrasty scenes as that is the way my tastes run as well, so for this one I decided to go the opposite direction and perhaps went too far.  I added an extra ambient occlusion environment light that is perhaps lightening the shadows too much. The GI was set at 2/10 which is much higher than I would normally go but I wanted to insure that the shadow areas in the leaves of the close bushes didn't get ugly and "muddy" looking.

But what is your GI blur radius setting?
Lowering this tends to add more details in the shadow areas.
Title: Re: Forest Clearing
Post by: Seth on September 21, 2011, 05:21:18 PM
Quote from: RArcher on September 20, 2011, 04:34:31 PM
I added an extra ambient occlusion environment light
good good :)
Title: Re: Forest Clearing
Post by: Markal on September 21, 2011, 06:09:59 PM
The rocks do look a little strange without shadows and seem to be floating slightly...but, as I put away my magnifying glass I see an exceptional image. Keep on man, you do inspirational work!!! Thanks.
Mark
Title: Re: Forest Clearing V2
Post by: RArcher on September 21, 2011, 08:55:39 PM
Thank you Markal.  Here is an updated version, far more contrasty, a little better foreground, and I think slightly better colours.

http://www.archer-designs.com/zp/albums/digital-art/terragen-2/forest-clearing-v2.jpg (http://www.archer-designs.com/zp/albums/digital-art/terragen-2/forest-clearing-v2.jpg)
Title: Re: Forest Clearing V2
Post by: :) on September 21, 2011, 10:23:07 PM
to much contrast, sky is no details now, washed away
Title: Re: Forest Clearing V2
Post by: Dune on September 22, 2011, 03:14:06 AM
Right, and now with the perfect lighting of the first one!
Title: Re: Forest Clearing V2
Post by: FrankB on September 22, 2011, 04:02:24 AM
Great image, I love it.! The foreground is especially awesome!
I have no problem with the blown out sky, I think that's how it would be on a photo anyway under this kind of lighting conditions.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Forest Clearing V2
Post by: Luc on September 22, 2011, 07:16:24 AM
It is better now to my taste..

luc
Title: Re: Forest Clearing V2
Post by: Dune on September 22, 2011, 01:19:18 PM
Strange how tastes can differ so much.... If this were a photo I would dismiss it, whereas the first one had great light. Sorry again, Ryan.
Title: Re: Forest Clearing V2
Post by: Kadri on September 22, 2011, 09:18:05 PM

I prefer the first one too. Just a little more contrast and some shadow tweaking was enough for me. Yup different tastes :)
Title: Re: Forest Clearing V2
Post by: Hannes on September 23, 2011, 12:34:37 PM
Great picture. Imho the lighting should be something in between the first and the last image.
Title: Re: Forest Clearing V2
Post by: Jonathan on September 24, 2011, 01:55:05 PM
The second render is fantastic - the lighting is superb and the addition of fallen leaves looks great....
Title: Re: Forest Clearing V2
Post by: :) on September 27, 2011, 08:10:18 PM
Quote from: jj100all4u on September 24, 2011, 01:55:05 PM
The second render is fantastic - the lighting is superb and the addition of fallen leaves looks great....
Leaves not look like from pines that are there tho