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Title: Seeking Dark Purple Leaf Tree Model(s)
Post by: ares2101 on July 01, 2012, 04:29:56 PM
I'm working on an image with trees of lots of different colors, but one color I want eludes me, I can't find one anywhere in my Xfrog plants, purple.  In Connecticut, we have some trees which are seriously dark purple (a maple from what I remember of their leaves) and I've seen pics of other shades, but all I can find in my possession are bright-red Red Maples and pink Kanzan Cherries.  Does anyone know of any distinctly purple tree models that work in TG2?  I've looked around a bit and haven't had any luck.  Preferably I want to use something similar in shade to this below, purple, not pinkish or reddish.

(http://homegardenandyou.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/5/files/2011/12/purple_beech_or_copper_beech_tree.jpg)
Title: Re: Seeking Dark Purple Leaf Tree Model(s)
Post by: gregsandor on July 01, 2012, 04:40:27 PM
You can modify the shaders and make the leaves any color you want.
Title: Re: Seeking Dark Purple Leaf Tree Model(s)
Post by: ares2101 on July 01, 2012, 04:42:39 PM
Quote from: gregsandor on July 01, 2012, 04:40:27 PM
You can modify the shaders and make the leaves any color you want.

I can?  I thought they got their color from the textures applied to them.  I remember once having trouble with some 3DS plant looking totally black because of a broken file path.  How do I change it?
Title: Re: Seeking Dark Purple Leaf Tree Model(s)
Post by: cyphyr on July 01, 2012, 05:47:21 PM
Looks exactly like a copper beach (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=copper+beech&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=MsPwT8TOJfKa1AXPooHECA&sqi=2&ved=0CEcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=910#hl=en&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=copper+beech&oq=copper+beech&gs_l=img.12...0.0.0.3589.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0.fYQh7AE1E0Y&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=9a883c373332f247&biw=1920&bih=910) to me.

If you're not going to get too close I'd just find a tree in your Xfrog collection that matches the shape you want and re-colour the leaves in Photoshop (Images>Adjust>Hue/Saturation, and save them under a new name of course!). Then re-assign the leaves of your chosen tree in it's internal network.

Good luck

Richard
Title: Re: Seeking Dark Purple Leaf Tree Model(s)
Post by: bigben on July 01, 2012, 05:51:32 PM
PoseRay is good for preparing models for importing into TG. You can set it to move the textures into the same path as the object which makes life a lot easier. Are people still using this application?
Title: Re: Seeking Dark Purple Leaf Tree Model(s)
Post by: masonspappy on July 01, 2012, 06:12:25 PM
Sounds like you are looking for a purple plum tree:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.summerstonenursery.com/repository/product/95PurpleLeafPlum_lg.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.summerstonenursery.com/Product-Purple-Leaf-Plum-Trees_3571.aspx&h=325&w=253&sz=13&tbnid=Z-Ukvw7-AO9MSM:&tbnh=107&tbnw=83&zoom=1&usg=__rBbNEJWUKfdkfV5ITDoY3jBtRXQ=&docid=wPHM_wCFP8UyTM&sa=X&ei=DMvwT7G4IYKC8QSp5PyRAg&ved=0CGQQ9QEwBA&dur=1047
Title: Re: Seeking Dark Purple Leaf Tree Model(s)
Post by: inkydigit on July 01, 2012, 06:39:09 PM
what about a purple acer?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eYRi0bWTgWM/T6WuF01ijkI/AAAAAAAAFso/h2j9MWzkmIk/s1600/Acer+platanoides+var+Crimson+King.JPG
from:
http://tree-species.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/crimson-king-maple-leaf.html
:)
Title: Re: Seeking Dark Purple Leaf Tree Model(s)
Post by: ares2101 on July 01, 2012, 10:37:54 PM
Quote from: cyphyr on July 01, 2012, 05:47:21 PM
Looks exactly like a copper beach (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=copper+beech&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=MsPwT8TOJfKa1AXPooHECA&sqi=2&ved=0CEcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=910#hl=en&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=copper+beech&oq=copper+beech&gs_l=img.12...0.0.0.3589.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0.fYQh7AE1E0Y&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=9a883c373332f247&biw=1920&bih=910) to me.

If you're not going to get too close I'd just find a tree in your Xfrog collection that matches the shape you want and re-colour the leaves in Photoshop (Images>Adjust>Hue/Saturation, and save them under a new name of course!). Then re-assign the leaves of your chosen tree in it's internal network.

Good luck

Richard

That one was a Copper Beech, yes.  That idea sounds simple (and in hindsight) obvious enough to work.  I don't have photoshop, but GIMP probably has that ability, I'll give it a shot tomorrow.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Seeking Dark Purple Leaf Tree Model(s)
Post by: gregsandor on July 01, 2012, 11:56:18 PM
You don't have to recolor the leaf textures (though that's also a useful method sometimes).  Set up a shader to add or multiply a color through the existing texture. 
Title: Re: Seeking Dark Purple Leaf Tree Model(s)
Post by: bobbystahr on July 02, 2012, 02:28:26 AM
Quote from: bigben on July 01, 2012, 05:51:32 PM
PoseRay is good for preparing models for importing into TG. You can set it to move the textures into the same path as the object which makes life a lot easier. Are people still using this application?

daily Ben...daily, sometimes hourly, heh heh heh....trés handy
Title: Re: Seeking Dark Purple Leaf Tree Model(s)
Post by: gregsandor on July 02, 2012, 03:06:29 AM
Quote from: bigben on July 01, 2012, 05:51:32 PM
PoseRay is good for preparing models for importing into TG. You can set it to move the textures into the same path as the object which makes life a lot easier. Are people still using this application?

I've never used it.
Title: Re: Seeking Dark Purple Leaf Tree Model(s)
Post by: bigben on July 02, 2012, 03:14:22 AM
It's good for people without 3D modelling software.  And here's a suggested quick tweak to adjust a green leaf texture
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Title: Re: Seeking Dark Purple Leaf Tree Model(s)
Post by: Matt on July 02, 2012, 08:57:50 PM
Quote from: gregsandor on July 01, 2012, 11:56:18 PM
You don't have to recolor the leaf textures (though that's also a useful method sometimes).  Set up a shader to add or multiply a color through the existing texture.

Even simpler, you can change the diffuse colour in the Default Shader. It is just a multiplier for the texture colour. If the original texture isn't too saturated then you should be able to turn it dark red/purple this way.
Title: Re: Seeking Dark Purple Leaf Tree Model(s)
Post by: ares2101 on July 03, 2012, 07:21:42 PM
Quote from: Matt on July 02, 2012, 08:57:50 PM
Quote from: gregsandor on July 01, 2012, 11:56:18 PM
You don't have to recolor the leaf textures (though that's also a useful method sometimes).  Set up a shader to add or multiply a color through the existing texture.

Even simpler, you can change the diffuse colour in the Default Shader. It is just a multiplier for the texture colour. If the original texture isn't too saturated then you should be able to turn it dark red/purple this way.

Hm, I already had good results changing the texture, but I'll have to try this, it would be simpler in the long run.