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Poll
Question: Who feels up for another NWDA (Still) image contest?
Option 1: I'm in votes: 29
Option 2: I'm out votes: 0
Title: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: FrankB on January 16, 2013, 11:20:03 AM
Hey guys,

check out this quick poll and cast a vote!

Frank
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on January 16, 2013, 11:36:58 AM
about time...  ;)

hav you come up with any idea for a theme?
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: FrankB on January 16, 2013, 11:38:43 AM
I have a few ideas but not decided yet...  ;)
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on January 16, 2013, 11:40:16 AM
alright, figured it was too early for that.
look forward to ideas.
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: freelancah on January 16, 2013, 12:29:14 PM
For sure!
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: inkydigit on January 16, 2013, 05:42:29 PM
sounds like a great idea!
:)
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: FrankB on January 16, 2013, 05:46:43 PM
 :o how's the thread read 42 times and just 7 votes? Come on people! ;-)
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: TheBadger on January 17, 2013, 01:03:32 AM
^^ People will read it this week, and vote next week. Logging in is a lot of work!  ;) jk Frank. I voted. I would like to participate now that I can at least get close to making the scenes I wanted when I got terragen.
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Dune on January 17, 2013, 03:51:32 AM
I'm sure you'll get a lot of YES. Good idea, Frank.
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Mor on January 17, 2013, 09:28:15 AM
Yes!
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: billhd on January 17, 2013, 02:03:12 PM
Depends some on the theme, but I will vote yes. Have not been doing much TG2 so perhaps it would be good kick!  Bill
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: FrankB on January 18, 2013, 08:48:54 AM
ok, so far so good. I will consider to start another contest once we cross the line of 30 people voting "I'm in" ;-)

You may have noticed there is no "maybe" choice ;-P

Keep voting! I promise this will be a very interesting theme you don't want to miss.

Frank
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Dune on January 18, 2013, 11:57:00 AM
I thought many more people would want to participate than the current 20  :-\ Makes me wonder how many people actually use TG2 in a more or less regular way, either professionally or as a 'hobby'.
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Kadri on January 18, 2013, 01:01:14 PM

http://challenge.cgsociety.org/ten/view_entries#jumpto   
More then 450 entries and not all of them finished as it looks...
Ulco if you think about all the 3D software around and the awards there i think there isn't much to be worried about.
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: FrankB on January 18, 2013, 01:31:58 PM
Ah, there is nothing to worry! It's all fun and we get 30 participants, I am sure!  ;)
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: choronr on January 18, 2013, 02:21:33 PM
Theme suggestion: Freestyle; although hard to make choices and comparisons when voting.
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Hannes on January 18, 2013, 05:35:39 PM
Five days left and still seven participants needed. Come on, you sissies!!! ;) ;) ;)
Btw, I'd like to have a more specific theme. Freestyle can be everything. I want a challenge!!! ;D
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Tangled-Universe on January 18, 2013, 05:48:34 PM
I won't promise anything, but I know Frank has a nice theme in his head ;)
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Dune on January 19, 2013, 03:56:48 AM
Agree with Hannes!
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: cyphyr on January 19, 2013, 06:34:56 AM
Creativity often comes with limited choices. How about a challenge that limits us in some way, forcing us to find an original solution.

Maybe the entire scene can only use a specific number or maximum number of shaders.
or
Maybe their is a supplied terrain that has to be textures and lit.
or
Limit the colour pallet in some way, you may only use blues and orange for the ground textures.
or
Do what you like but the sunlight is green!

Just an idea but I think with the talent here we might come up with some novel, interesting and educational solutions.

Cheers

Richard
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Kadri on January 19, 2013, 08:16:34 AM

If you want more participants i would only choose a subject like "mountains in winter" etc. and not restrict it too much.
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Tangled-Universe on January 19, 2013, 09:02:29 AM
In a way you're right Richard, but my concern and opinion is that if you put restrictions in the contest challenge like max shaders and such then you'll only attract about a handful of contestants who can cope with such a challenge.

What Frank has in mind isn't very restricting. The theme will be a certain subject, so we'll restrict you to that, but you can put this in any kind of landscape you like.
This will allow for both a challenge as well as allowing a contestant to use his previous experience and favorite elements/strengths in his work.

I hope this doesn't sound too vague, but I don't want to spoil Frank's idea for the contest by throwing it in here :)

We just need a couple more votes! ;)

Cheers,
Martin
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Dune on January 19, 2013, 12:46:46 PM
A waterfall? A.... cave? A..... crater? A..... outcrop of rock? Or just a specified object? Curious.....
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: bobbystahr on January 20, 2013, 01:34:58 PM
My only request is please wait till the 2.5 release of the free edition so the po' folk (me etc.) could join in with a minimal handicap(size/res/pop)....
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: mhaze on January 20, 2013, 02:19:33 PM
will have a go
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Tangled-Universe on January 20, 2013, 04:56:41 PM
6 more!

Come on guys! ;D
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: plugsnpixels on February 07, 2013, 02:54:44 PM
I'll support the contest like I did last time by publishing the winner's work and bio in my ezine (http://plugsandpixels.com/ezine.html) (see issue #18).
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Dune on February 08, 2013, 03:17:19 AM
Well, hopefully that'll convince the last three contestants to enter  :-\  I am quite amazed about the lack of response to this contest proposal, really  >:(
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Tangled-Universe on February 08, 2013, 03:58:58 AM
Perhaps some are a bit reluctant because they are afraid it will be as comprehensive as last one (animation storyboard challenge)?

I can tell, without saying specifically, that all the candidate themes are about still images :)
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: FrankB on February 08, 2013, 04:55:14 AM
So... because not everyone is checking the forums often, and because it's relatively easy to miss a thread, I have opened the voting for another 10 days.

The contest themes in question are indeed about creating a still image - so no story boards or animations.

What's different this time around is the method by which the winner is chosen. In the past years, we had a jury, but this time, we would like to open the voting process up to the forum users. On top of that, we may have 2 voting categories, like "most photo real" and "most interesting", so that we would have 2 second place winners and 1 first place winner. The first place winner would be the one with the highest combined score from the two categories.

Well, still thinking about it, how that might work out or not, but I wanted to share this with you anyway, perhaps to spark your interest.

So if you would like to participate, VOTE NOW, if you haven't already.

Cheers
Frank
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Dune on February 08, 2013, 05:23:28 AM
The problem with 'photo real' is that it's hard for free TG2 users to have a fair chance. Perhaps that could be another category?
The voting is a good idea, but I wouldn't ask people to get all '30' in line, but give the three best their respective number, or just the best of each category one vote. But how would you restrict the voting per person? I could easily vote 10 times for one of the images (my own  ;))...
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: FrankB on February 08, 2013, 05:45:36 AM
"Photo real" is definitely the prime category, when we talk about Terragen. You can make pretty photo real images with the free version, you just have to choose a scene that is not so much affected by the free version limitations. For example, don't create a scene that relies on a big variety in populations.
The contest theme will allow for that kind of flexibility.
Frankly, TG2 is all about photo real, so that category is a must.

In all honesty, we don't want to limit the scope of the contest based on free or not free edition. We just want to honor the best image, whatever it takes.

About the voting system, we still have to figure that out in detail. Our initial thought is to allow one vote per category, which makes it simple. Most likely a normal survey could provide that functionality. Once we decide to let people vote, there is always a possibility of cheating, which we will surely attempt to prevent, but there is no guarantee of success - that's a risk we would take. After all, this is for FUN and not something really serious.
We think the benefit of letting everyone participate in the outcome outweighs the cheating risk. It sure would be an experiment, as we have never done that before.
In the end, IF there are serious problems that we can't overcome with a public voting, we can still resort back to a jury model.

I think this is all probably secondary, as the actual act of contesting in creativity and skill should be the primary motivator for participating. The past NWDA contests have created some of the top community experiences on these forums in the past. That's what counts! :-)

Cheers,
Frank



Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Dune on February 08, 2013, 05:49:51 AM
Agree. Hopefully some more contestants will appear out of the dark and unfathomable depths of TG2 users... Any idea about prizes yet? That might pull people across the line...
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: FrankB on February 08, 2013, 05:54:25 AM
hmm, no idea about the prizes, yet. Rember, we're just about whether we launch a new contest or not. No reason to talk to possible sponsors just yet :-)
I'm sure we'll have attractive prizes eventually, as always!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: TheBadger on February 08, 2013, 09:32:19 AM
I prefer a jury model with clear guidelines that the jury will follow to make their decisions.  I have given up on democracy.
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Hetzen on February 12, 2013, 08:29:17 AM
29
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: FrankB on February 12, 2013, 08:32:08 AM
Quote from: Hetzen on February 12, 2013, 08:29:17 AM
29

GREAT!!
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Dune on February 13, 2013, 02:41:19 AM
Are you 29, Jon? Then, good that you're in! Now who's going to be number 30?
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: FrankB on February 20, 2013, 03:45:44 AM
So, 29 is not 30, but I guess it's close enough.

We'll begin to work out the details for the contest and be back with the full announcement soon. :)

Looking forward to this!

Frank
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: Thelby on February 20, 2013, 06:50:20 PM
I'll take spot 30  ;D
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: FrankB on February 21, 2013, 11:59:41 AM
Quote from: Thelby on February 20, 2013, 06:50:20 PM
I'll take spot 30  ;D

That's awesome! We're going to announce details soon!
Title: Re: Who would feel up for another NWDA Image Contest?
Post by: FrankB on February 22, 2013, 06:37:30 PM
alright, let's go: http://www.planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,15724.0.html

:) :) :)