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Title: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: mhaze on August 18, 2013, 07:03:30 AM
Thanks to Hannes for the atmosphere suggestion :) Many years ago I watched some goats play "king of the castle" for about 15 mins before returning to the proper buisiness of eating and I could not resist adding them. 
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: DannyG on August 18, 2013, 09:09:57 AM
Excellent work on this version, looks fantastic
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: TheBadger on August 18, 2013, 09:38:13 AM
I think the goat thats standing in the water is nearly or completely photo real. The light in that exact spot must be the ideal light to get. Its interesting.
The goat jumping *up* to the stone also looks perfect.

The others are good too, its just the two I mention are really really real ;D

I think the light on the terrain also got a good deal better too. I like that you added some mood with the atmo. There is more emotion now.

Its really good man! And I don't want to exhaust you. But My last suggestion is to add an overcast sky. But push the overcast sky back so its above and behind the cliffs so it does not ruin that beautiful light in the foreground.

For the  overcast sky I recommend FrankB's free clip. You may not even have to use a new camera to push is behind the mountains. Often the sun will shine through as with out, but you get some extra feeling.

This is good now, just some more ideas is all.
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: Dune on August 18, 2013, 10:07:11 AM
Great!
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: masonspappy on August 18, 2013, 11:45:32 AM
Photoreal. Simple, elegant and beautiful
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: EoinArmstrong on August 18, 2013, 03:01:36 PM
This is really great!  Some awesome photorealism going on, especially in the right fore-to-midground... the billboards are reasonably effective, although it's hard to gauge scale
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: Kadri on August 18, 2013, 05:45:16 PM

Nice image!
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: mhaze on August 19, 2013, 04:15:29 AM
Thanks all. Eoin, there are no billboards, everything is either a .obj or tgo model.  Badger, is it the patch of blue sky you don't like?  I was going for the clearing storm look.
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: EoinArmstrong on August 19, 2013, 04:29:22 AM
Wow, really?  My bad... they are great models and well-lit, then!
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: TheBadger on August 19, 2013, 06:25:13 AM
Quote from: mhaze on August 19, 2013, 04:15:29 AM
Badger, is it the patch of blue sky you don't like?  I was going for the clearing storm look.

Yeah, The blue there really throws me off.
I got what you were after right away. I would say if someone gets exactly what you wanted them to, then that is a talent.

But for me the power is in those clouds in the pathway. Thats where the emotion is. The story.
I see blue skies everyday. Its nice. But its boring.
That dense fog/storm coming in and the warm light from behind the camera about to be consumed... But its cool because I don't get the sense that I (or the goats) are about to die in a lighting storm. More like some heavy rain (maybe), but the fog may lead to some mystery.

I presume I followed a path to get to the watering hole. And that because Im facing the clouds, and thats where the path leads, that whatever I came here for is hidden in that storm. Maybe that fog is always there? Maybe it hides my village from PRISM... Or something like that anyway :D

I was probably voting for what I wanted to see more than commenting on how good your image is ;D sorry :)

By the way, I did not say so, but I love the frock faces too.
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: mhaze on August 19, 2013, 07:18:48 AM
Don't apologise, I enjoy your comments they are honest and thought provoking.  I'll photoshop the blue out - just to see.  I must admit I am not sure about it either.
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: mhaze on August 19, 2013, 09:34:03 AM
Here you go - not sure which I like the best, last one I think.
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: Oshyan on August 19, 2013, 04:05:50 PM
Personally I like the blue. I feel like the sun may be about to break through and shine light on these nice creatures in the foreground, which would be nice. :)

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: EoinArmstrong on August 19, 2013, 05:06:24 PM
I prefer the middle one... it doesn't *always* rain in Scotland :p
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: elipsis1 on August 19, 2013, 11:17:59 PM
This looks so real, excellent job.
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: TheBadger on August 19, 2013, 11:20:07 PM
Yep, I like it this way more.
Its inclosed. Hidden. Secret.
Something unexpected can happen here now.

Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: mhaze on August 20, 2013, 04:05:40 AM
Just goes to show - you can't please all of the people ever! ;)
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: Hannes on August 20, 2013, 11:01:41 AM
Yes, this is it! I'm quite happy without the blue ;D.

One last suggestion: maybe the mist could use some more detail. If you'd decrease the smallest scale of the density fractal and maybe increase the roughness in the density tab a bit it might add some more sense of scale.
Btw: have you tried to check "receive shadows from surfaces"? I don't know if this would make any change, and it increases render times, but maybe you would get some nice rays?!
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: choronr on August 22, 2013, 02:05:54 AM
Actually, I like them both. And, those displacements on that mountain are outstanding. Planetside should include those in their TG3 presets.
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: choronr on August 22, 2013, 02:08:07 AM
Actually, I like them both. And, those displacements on that mountain are outstanding. Planetside should include those in their TG3 presets.
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: mhaze on August 22, 2013, 05:01:16 AM
Hi Hannes can't get much in the way of rays.  here's a low res attempt. 
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: TheBadger on August 22, 2013, 05:11:45 PM
QuotePlanetside should include those in their TG3 presets

I always feel bad for asking for free stuff. But I always feel bad anyway... So why not?
+1
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: Hannes on August 23, 2013, 12:26:24 AM
Looks great. I still think the mist needs a bit more detail.
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: Dune on August 23, 2013, 02:31:46 AM
QuotePlanetside should include those in their TG3 presets

Unless an author (Mick) doesn't want to share his findings, which I can understand in many cases.
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: mhaze on August 23, 2013, 05:02:46 AM
Thanks all.  The displacements are very simple, I'll stick the tgd in file sharing sans the plants when I have a moment later.
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: Jo Kariboo on August 24, 2013, 10:09:45 AM
The 2 first have a excellent athmos. I think I would have preferred her images without the beasts. I very like the texture and color to !!!  :)
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: otakar on August 25, 2013, 01:45:56 AM
Wonderful object use and placement! Like the first one a bit better, but I understand why some people prefer it without the blue sky. Anyway, this is really well done. One of those you want to bookmark...
Title: Re: Scottish Corrie take two
Post by: mhaze on August 25, 2013, 05:25:47 AM
Thank you.