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Title: De-extinction: A new word for your vocabulary
Post by: PabloMack on August 22, 2013, 10:49:01 AM
I have already placed this video inside Badger's Evolution/Darwinism thread but I think it deserves its own discussion.

As I was trying to find this video for you guys, I came across an audition for a full feature movie called "Unextinction". I don't know whether that is an indy or major studio production. In any case, the video below talks about the real thing. If anyone questions whether we are trying to play God here I will answer them "Well, it will be a welcome change after having played the Devil for so long." Everybody can chime in with their two-pence worth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKc9MJDeqj0
Title: Re: De-extinction: A new word for your vocabulary
Post by: Dune on August 22, 2013, 12:30:33 PM
Thanks, PabloMack. Real, interesting stuff. Then I wished I would still be working as a biologist...
Title: Re: De-extinction: A new word for your vocabulary
Post by: PabloMack on August 23, 2013, 10:17:28 AM
Quote from: Dune on August 22, 2013, 12:30:33 PM
Thanks, PabloMack. Real, interesting stuff. Then I wished I would still be working as a biologist...

So you worked as a Biologist at one time? I would like to know about your experiences.
Title: Re: De-extinction: A new word for your vocabulary
Post by: Dune on August 23, 2013, 11:19:51 AM
No, I perhaps used the wrong wording (English  :P). ) I graduated (with honors  ;D) but couldn't find work ('80's, you know), so my only experience is from graduation studies. But I wish I could do something in this field, I often miss the fieldwork.
Title: Re: De-extinction: A new word for your vocabulary
Post by: PabloMack on August 23, 2013, 06:16:28 PM
Yeah, like me. I have a B.S. in Zoology with Chemistry minor. I graduated with honors also. I dropped out of a masters degree program in biology to go into computer science and electronics. Your biology background should help you in 3D art where living things are concerned. I seem to often be correcting visual artists in areas concerning living things because they try to humanize everything. Once I was at a Lightwave meeting and one of the 3D artists was demonstrating a very impressive teleost 3D model that was all rigged. I think it was a salmon. He grabbed the skin above the eye and was trying to animate what he called the fish's "eyelid". I told him that these fishes don't have eyelids (they don't need them because they live in water) and he didn't seem to appreciate what I was talking about. This was a realistic model and not a cartoony one so it didn't have anthropomorphic features on it.

I studied lizards in my thesis. I can't say that I regret having studied biology. What was your area(s) of study?
Title: Re: De-extinction: A new word for your vocabulary
Post by: Dune on August 24, 2013, 02:53:15 AM
Interesting. I studied the impact of disturbance on waders in our Waddensee, i.e. how much less food intake under what kind of disturbance. So we had airplanes, boats and people (with dogs) passing certain areas, while we were monitoring behavior. Another study was on the social behavior of mountain hares in the Cairngorms (Scotland), and the third was on the ecology of river otters in Shetland, i.e. finding the relation between the abundance of otters and certain terrain and prey parameters, so an easier way of monitoring otter populations could be found by studying terrain features and food abundance (fish) instead of the otters themselves. Great time!
Actually, I applied for a job as a biologist (1987 I believe) and had added some drawings of mountain hares I made while in Scotland, and the guy told me to better seek a career in (biological) illustration. Which I did, with quite some success (got paintings in a US museum  ;D. )

Regarding biology and 3D art; I often see animated birds (I'm an avid birdwatcher), which don't fly like real birds do, the movements are wrong, and then I wish I could do that better.

I like lizards, we don't have them really, but my dad used to have a large very natural terrarium with anolus, some tree frogs and small European lizards. We used to catch them as little boys, with a stick and a noose on the end. We kept them in a cloth terrarium on the campsite, took them to Holland for the large terrarium and next year swapped them for some new ones. They never died on us, and even bred!