hi there,
I wonder, if it is possible to render a really cartoon-ish looking sky (or a complete scene with surface) with TG2 or TG3?
The only match I´ve found on this forum is: http://www.planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,7861.msg84005.html#msg84005 (http://www.planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,7861.msg84005.html#msg84005) - but
there is no tgd attached and no explaination of the settings, either...
So, if you know, how to archive a good looking "toon-render" - please let me know!
Cheers!
It is not much about the sky i tested. It was more for the fun.
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The 7z file does have one of the free plants from here and one free toy plane i forgot from where i found.
Our mathematical skilled artists here could make wonders.
Using different angles for shading,lighting it could be possible to get black edges etc. maybe.
Martin(Dandelo) had many files to download actually.
He or others will help you soon i think .
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Thank you very much!
Some more suggestions on how to render the sky "toon-ish"?
Ok - so no cartoon-style skies with Terragen?
I haven seen much regarding cartoon rendering here around.
But that doesn't mean you can not do this.
The very basic way might be to use a background image for example .
There are many different cartoon looks.
If you post an example others could see what you are after maybe.
I am thinking of skies like this for example:
http://www.google.de/imgres?start=202&sa=X&biw=1387&bih=794&tbm=isch&tbnid=UjBBDdjDS8CBPM%3A&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myhdwallpapers.org%2Fandroid-sky-wallpaper-and-desktop-background-in-1920x1200-px-resolution-id12460.html%2Fandroid-sky-wallpaper-and-desktop-background-in-1920x1200-px-resolution-id12460&docid=IWilEMYigzXAbM&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myhdwallpapers.org%2Fimg%2F2014%2F09%2Fandroid-sky-wallpaper-and-desktop-background-in-1920x1200-px-resolution-id12460.jpg&w=1920&h=1200&ei=3BjQUoPFMubZ4ASlxYDwBw&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=1701&page=8&ndsp=30&ved=0CAsQrQMwAjjIAQ (http://www.google.de/imgres?start=202&sa=X&biw=1387&bih=794&tbm=isch&tbnid=UjBBDdjDS8CBPM%3A&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myhdwallpapers.org%2Fandroid-sky-wallpaper-and-desktop-background-in-1920x1200-px-resolution-id12460.html%2Fandroid-sky-wallpaper-and-desktop-background-in-1920x1200-px-resolution-id12460&docid=IWilEMYigzXAbM&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myhdwallpapers.org%2Fimg%2F2014%2F09%2Fandroid-sky-wallpaper-and-desktop-background-in-1920x1200-px-resolution-id12460.jpg&w=1920&h=1200&ei=3BjQUoPFMubZ4ASlxYDwBw&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=1701&page=8&ndsp=30&ved=0CAsQrQMwAjjIAQ)
or
http://www.google.de/imgres?sa=X&biw=1387&bih=794&tbm=isch&tbnid=o7HD6dYDQk_1FM%3A&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fantom-xp.com%2Fde_23__Blue_sky_windows_7_clipart.html&docid=ZNPp32kEFrLzuM&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fantom-xp.com%2Fwallpapers%2F23%2FBlue_sky_windows_7_clipart.jpg&w=1680&h=1050&ei=gxjQUtqaBMHNywOGloHoDQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=2147&page=1&start=0&ndsp=25&ved=0CHUQrQMwCw (http://www.google.de/imgres?sa=X&biw=1387&bih=794&tbm=isch&tbnid=o7HD6dYDQk_1FM%3A&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fantom-xp.com%2Fde_23__Blue_sky_windows_7_clipart.html&docid=ZNPp32kEFrLzuM&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fantom-xp.com%2Fwallpapers%2F23%2FBlue_sky_windows_7_clipart.jpg&w=1680&h=1050&ei=gxjQUtqaBMHNywOGloHoDQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=2147&page=1&start=0&ndsp=25&ved=0CHUQrQMwCw)
Personally, I like the idea. Unfortunately, I (and probably several others) just haven't had a chance to experiment in this area. Don't mistake a lack of responses for lack of interest. Although, I'm convinced you can adapt Terragen to suit this particular style, I just don't know what settings would effect the look you're after. I think, mostly, you'd want to strip a lot of shading from your clouds. There are also ways to get fluffier clouds, as well. You just have to tweak the settings until you get the look you want.
Personally I thing the way forward with this is to make it look like a cartoon in post.
I have a little accidental experience with this topic. What (I think) you want to do is like Kadri demonstrated. That is, make things with flat single colors. Use objects that were built to have a cartoon feel/design. Have no volume in the Atmo.. No volumetric lighting.
No shadows! Use hand drawn billboards for the background.
And then after you render out the scene/frames. Use Photoshop plugins on each frame to add the particular cartoon style you want (batch process the frames several times to build like you do with layers)
But really. Terragen really does not do "old style" cartoons well at all (I would say). Modern extremely high production value 3D cartoons, YES!
But old school 2d look, no. It would just be so much work, working against the thinking that TG was built on...IMO.
What you want is something like https://www.toonboom.com/products/harmony-stand-alone
*I guess*
Hope that helps a little. Or at least gives you some more ideas.
A few years ago I messed about with cartoony TG renders. Not great but fun to try for something different. I'm sure I could do better these days, these are pretty old now.
Search for 'Meep Meep' and 'Area 52'.
With all the density controls on clouds you can control the density or depth with any image, black and white or color. The image can be projected through a camera or y projection to do kind of a cookie cutter job on the cloud.
Here's some examples of what I mean.
As you see you have many possibilities.
I changed only few parameters and got these ones for example.
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@DandelO and Kadri.
OK, I was wrong ;D
But now I want to see a TG animation of a "Cartoon". And I will be nagging you all until I do.
I hope this is enough Michael :)
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Wow, even I'm impressed. Nicely done!
- Oshyan
;D
Like!
Did it render fast? I would just guess that it did. If so, there should be more of this. Quite fun actually.
Nice job Kadri. THose clouds are rather good.
Thanks Oshyan and Michael!
Render time was 2.45 hours (100 frames, I7 2600K ) .
I wanted to see how it would look too.
Michael gave me the reason to do it :)
Yes, your not the only pesron who enjoys proving me wrong, Kadri. :P ;D
This Terragen piece of software looks like it is very small and easy ,
but by the time i learn new things i mostly forget other things too all the time.
Like the thread about the rings Michael ;)
So about 1.5 minutes per frame? That's not bad at all. For higher quality figure 15-30 min/frame at 1080p I suppose.
- Oshyan
Probably Oshyan.
Because it was fast enough i did not bother to see how i could optimize it.
So it could be faster too.
@Kadri:
Wow, you just got it right :) I tried your attached .TGD files and get lots of warnings.
Unfortunatly, I can not find out, which of the files it the right on to archive the look of the last image
(I marked it with a red cross) :-[
Thanks :)
It is the " Untitled_09_cok_renkli_kenar_farkli_sert.tgd " file .
Render times are much longer with that file.
So you have to try to optimize it more maybe.
There shouldn't any error messages actually.
I did not use any other object or image map (so far i know).
Do you use an older version of Terragen?
Mine is 3.0.07.0.
(I know this is not the last build but i think the new build is very near so i still did not update it to the last build.)
Yes, we are useing 2.4 in the Office - but should geht the 3.x version soon (according to our Boss)
Can you save the tgd in a compatible format?
If not, i will try TG 3 free version, till we finally get it in the office...
Cheers!
Can not say for sure but i think the errors should be harmless mostly ,
because i did not used anything specific for TG3 .
If you try a smaller render (200 x 100 for example ) you will see the same scene probably.
If not i will look at it ones more.
I openen the file you said and hit the render-button - but my scene looks different from what is in your image.
Would you mind to share your settings, then I can test and experiment myself?
Like what you did with cloud and lighting settings and so on...
Thx a lot ! :)
Actually the best way is to use the free version of TG3.
In that way you will see all the settings for yourself.
It looks like i have used some settings like "Gully smoothing" in the density fractal for the clouds.
I found an old 2.5 version of Terragen on my PC and i am testing it now.
It is the only setting i changed and the new and old render looks the same with that option turned to " 0 "
I am not sure how to replicate the same cloud on the old TG2.
Thank you man, would be awesome if you can test it come up with settings for old terragen.
Meanwhile, I take a look at TG3
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I tried some different settings with the 2.5 version.
Try the new file (for TG 2.5) i post here please.
It looks close i think but not the same cloud of course.
I hope you will get the same result on your computer.
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thanks a lot :D
I will try it at the office on Monday !
Cheers!
:)