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Title: Old man
Post by: TheBadger on May 23, 2014, 09:39:10 PM
I need a model of an old man. I search and search and all I find are lots of young naked chicks based an porn stars, a few gay dudes, and lots and lots of non humans or fantasy humanoids.

It does not even have to be a refined model. I just need a good start on an old man figure. I would even be very happy to find a 3-view of a real person in photos to model from.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Old man
Post by: yossam on May 23, 2014, 09:59:25 PM
Look in the mirror................ :P
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Post by: masonspappy on May 23, 2014, 10:24:26 PM
ouch
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Post by: Dune on May 24, 2014, 02:59:18 AM
I found a modern old man once... if that's of any use.
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Post by: Hannes on May 24, 2014, 05:06:16 AM
Maybe you can find something on the site Nacer Eddine has mentioned in another thread?
http://tf3dm.com/3d-models/characters/2/fbx
Title: Re: Old man
Post by: j meyer on May 24, 2014, 11:11:57 AM
Try MakeHuman,you can make any age(from babies to mummylike figures)
and gender easily.
And it's fast even if you're new to the app.
And you can make ready to use rigs also.
Give it a try,it's made for such purposes.
Title: Re: Old man
Post by: TheBadger on May 24, 2014, 05:48:08 PM
@ J
Ahhh thanks! I downloaded that and completely forgot about it. I have a holiday weekend now. So I hope to get a lot done before tuesday.

@Ulco
I think that is Ron Paul?

Title: Re: Old man
Post by: Dune on May 25, 2014, 02:44:04 AM
Who's Ron Paul? I didn't talk to the guy yet, so I wouldn't know  ;)
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Post by: TheBadger on May 26, 2014, 02:22:32 AM
lol, looks like him though... http://i.imgur.com/A4phJ.jpg
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Post by: TheBadger on May 27, 2014, 07:08:21 PM
Playing with this now finally.
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Post by: TheBadger on May 27, 2014, 07:20:57 PM
HOLY CRAP that is fast and easy! Thanks again for whoever told me about this in the first place. And for reminding me here! Im more than half way where I want to go in little more than 5 seconds!  ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Old man
Post by: Dune on May 28, 2014, 02:59:23 AM
Show us, Michael, show us the people you created!
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Post by: inkydigit on May 28, 2014, 06:05:32 AM
oooh MakeHuman looks good!
freee too!  :)
Michael, show us your old codger, do!
:D
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Post by: N-drju on May 28, 2014, 07:26:52 AM
Hm, that is remarkable!

But can you tell me what advantages MakeHuman has over, DAZ which is the only "human generator" I use?

Specifically I wonder about the content - if it is not the same bs as DAZ, where you have to pay for every little bit of content like sock or nose hair? >:(
Title: Re: Old man
Post by: red_planet on May 28, 2014, 11:18:18 AM
As far as I can tell, Makehuman comes naked , there was a library for clothes at some point, without downloading and installing...I can't tell.

The main advantage is it's Free ! There appear to be plenty of tutorials for making clothes for Makehuman using Blender.

Daz has always struck me as marketplace rather than an application per se....

Rgds

Chris
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Post by: N-drju on May 28, 2014, 11:24:56 AM
Free? So is DAZ. ;D But later you pay for all the bundles. Hence, I wonder if it's the case here as well.
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Post by: archonforest on May 28, 2014, 11:36:29 AM
You can find free stuff for Makehuman like hair, clothes...etc. I also found tuts about how to create your own stuff. I cannot give any links as so far I had no time to go into this business yet.
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Post by: Dune on May 28, 2014, 11:58:33 AM
But once you have this guy, isn't it 'easy' to open up in another software and add clothes, or just color him (for distance)?
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Post by: j meyer on May 28, 2014, 01:05:20 PM
Quote from: Dune on May 28, 2014, 11:58:33 AM
But once you have this guy, isn't it 'easy' to open up in another software and add clothes, or just color him (for distance)?
Yes it is! And MakeHuman has nowadays a few simple clothes that come with it.
Like jeans and a shirt and so on,even simple hair,already Uved etc.
And you can rig them and use the rigged  model in your modeling/animating app.
I don't know which rigging system(s) Lightwave supports,but chances are good that
one will do.
Title: Re: Old man
Post by: TheBadger on May 28, 2014, 07:14:27 PM
Quote from: j meyer on May 28, 2014, 01:05:20 PM
Quote from: Dune on May 28, 2014, 11:58:33 AM
But once you have this guy, isn't it 'easy' to open up in another software and add clothes, or just color him (for distance)?
Yes it is! And MakeHuman has nowadays a few simple clothes that come with it.
Like jeans and a shirt and so on,even simple hair,already Uved etc.
And you can rig them and use the rigged  model in your modeling/animating app.
I don't know which rigging system(s) Lightwave supports,but chances are good that
one will do.

Agreed. I like it because it is much less a system hog than Daz. It does not hide files allover my computer. And once I get it as far as I need or want than I can save an obj and open in Maya. This is mostly all I use Daz for.

I will keep daz though. I will probably buy some simple essential assets from them sooner than later.

Ill post the old man when he is done. All I did so far was use the base setting sliders in MH when you first open the program.
Im really happy that its so fast to use. Daz can really drag. And the UI is simple clean and functional. Daz is more problematic because it is more complicated. And again, Daz is a huge program that you have to install. MH does not need to be installed (on osx anyway.) And its open source, so I am guessing that problems won't be hidden... I hope.
I think it looks clean, feels clean so far.

Anyway. Daz is nice because its set up to use Daz assets. But once I send to maya, I can use any assets there too. Size and fit the way I want, and rig the objects the way I want.

One downside for MH may be, that you can only do natural human bipedal forms. But if you want legs like a rabbit or a kangaroo or something with that extra reversed joint, I dont know if you can in MH. But you can get that with DAZ.
But I just used the first settings so far. The thing I was on about was how fast from start up to good form I went. Daz takes longer just to get going, and then you have to rummage around in the UI for things.

So, thats all so far. will check out a few videos tonight after dinner, and see where that leads me. I guess my point is that I want to get the model as far as I can before I send to maya or go to sculpt. Have to do that no matter what I think. But this is a great starting place.


Title: Re: Old man
Post by: Dune on May 29, 2014, 02:07:48 AM
You're making me enthusiastic to use MH as well. I like clean software, and very much dislike hidden stuff, that you can't control (just got rid of Bill's Live Mail, which left me with stacks of replaced, unused folders  >:( ).