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Title: Pines
Post by: Lady of the Lake on July 29, 2014, 10:33:52 AM
Thanks for looking.

Tree from X-Frog

Even though this is a simple image it took forever to render.  Almost 40 hours.  Every time I put cumulus clouds in a render I get horrible render times like this.  The clouds are only one layer...heaven help me if I add more layers!   AA7, detail 2, DOF checked, Mitchell-Netravali. All else is default.
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: archonforest on July 29, 2014, 10:38:54 AM
I like this one alot ;) Very cool atmo.
But 40 hrs of rendering is pretty shocking. Are u running a single core old cpu?
Well... detail on 2 can make it longer... ???
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: fleetwood on July 29, 2014, 11:04:55 AM
Evokes a lonely but interesting place to me. Like the color scheme.
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: Dune on July 29, 2014, 11:48:04 AM
That is awfully long. On an i7 this would render in half an hour. But detail 2 is way too high, keep it at 0.8 max, and you're fine. The clouds are a different story. Did you use RT for them? How high are they?
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: Lady of the Lake on July 29, 2014, 12:03:08 PM
I have a dual core computer.  Just an ordinary ole computer, nothing like some of you have.   ;D

Cloud quality was set at 12; the altitude is 3183, on the render screen I have Ray Trace checked....is that what you are asking me? 
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: alessandro on July 29, 2014, 12:15:35 PM
Quote from: Lady of the Lake on July 29, 2014, 12:03:08 PM
I have a dual core computer.  Just an ordinary ole computer, nothing like some of you have.   ;D

Cloud quality was set at 12; the altitude is 3183, on the render screen I have Ray Trace checked....is that what you are asking me?

Cloud quality at 12 sounds extreme, I never go up than 2.
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: archonforest on July 29, 2014, 12:52:32 PM
Cloud quality at 12 :o
Well that is the reason for the looong render. Normally 0.5-1 is enough for a light picture.
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: fleetwood on July 29, 2014, 04:50:08 PM
You might want to double check the quality settings of the Atmosphere node itself. 16 samples is default. If it was at 64 samples coupled with Cloud quality of 12 that would rather boost the time it takes calculate.

If you don't see graininess in the clouds at cloud quality 0.8 or 1.0,  higher is likely to be no advantage. But you could make comparison tests of different qualities on an area of  cloud crop as an experiment.
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: TheBadger on July 29, 2014, 10:21:37 PM
I am very interested in the terrain. Can we see a render with no trees and just the terrain? Looks like there are some interesting details in there. Like the image as is, just want to see whats going on a little better.
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: Dune on July 30, 2014, 02:21:07 AM
Those settings are indeed quite extreme; best to start with default and crop render to see what grain there is, then increase until the grain is (virtually) gone. Either atmo or cloud.
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: mhaze on July 30, 2014, 04:24:18 AM
Very nice scene, excellent mood and composition.
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: Lady of the Lake on July 30, 2014, 10:04:40 AM
Quote from: TheBadger on July 29, 2014, 10:21:37 PM
I am very interested in the terrain. Can we see a render with no trees and just the terrain? Looks like there are some interesting details in there. Like the image as is, just want to see whats going on a little better.

The terrain is nothing special at all.  All the "interesting" things you see are just the image map I used.  But I can post it if you want.  All the terrain has on it is one image map.

Am redoing with smaller settings, will post when I am finished with it.  Thanks for all the input, appreciated.
Title: Re: Pines = Redone
Post by: Lady of the Lake on August 01, 2014, 11:14:10 PM
Okay, here is the image with much lower settings.  Render time was a little over 6 hours, still a long time but much better than the original.    Added some rye grass and at Bobby's suggestion added some other trees.  I think it is better now.

Thanks for all the input.  Off to start another project. 
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: yossam on August 01, 2014, 11:49:44 PM
Nice.......... :)
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: Kadri on August 01, 2014, 11:52:18 PM

Looks nice.
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: mhaze on August 02, 2014, 05:35:24 AM
Excellent work.
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: archonforest on August 02, 2014, 07:06:46 AM
Beautiful image. ;)
6 hours of render still very long ???....anycow... :D
Title: Re: Pines = Redone
Post by: DannyG on August 02, 2014, 10:52:15 AM
Quote from: Lady of the Lake on August 01, 2014, 11:14:10 PM
Okay, here is the image with much lower settings.  Render time was a little over 6 hours, still a long time but much better than the original.    Added some rye grass and at Bobby's suggestion added some other trees.  I think it is better now.

Thanks for all the input.  Off to start another project.

Image looks nice ! however 6 Hrs sounds a bit high.
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: Lady of the Lake on August 02, 2014, 10:56:18 AM
Render time too high.....probably, but a heck of a lot better than 40 hours!  :-)
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: DannyG on August 02, 2014, 11:06:21 AM
Its much better, however I'll bet you can drop that even lower. I know your specs from convos over @ Rendo, IMHO that image should render quicker on your machine. Send me an email if you would like to speak about this
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: choronr on August 02, 2014, 11:17:57 AM
Agree, this is an improvement. Render time and your processor, RAM and HD will dictate how long you wait.
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: bobbystahr on August 02, 2014, 01:43:48 PM
nicely done, now we work on render times....over to you Danny
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: Lady of the Lake on August 02, 2014, 09:01:01 PM
BIG thanks to Danny G. for his help.  I got this render down to just under 2 hours without losing the quality.
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: bobbystahr on August 03, 2014, 03:39:41 AM
Quote from: Lady of the Lake on August 02, 2014, 09:01:01 PM
BIG thanks to Danny G. for his help.  I got this render down to just under 2 hours without losing the quality.

woo hoo...go team go
Title: Re: Pines
Post by: archonforest on August 04, 2014, 09:51:29 AM
Under 2 hours? Wow..now that makes sense now :D