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Title: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: TheBadger on August 02, 2014, 01:24:16 AM
 I was struck by what I guess is being called the "black screen of death".
Basically my Mac starts up as normal but my screen goes black and stays that way.

The cause is either my gpu or my monitor (maybe both took a shit). I can't exclude one or the other. And I don't have a way to test.

I removed my upgraded gpu and put in the factory gpu. No joy. But I can't be sure from that alone that it's only my monitor... Can I?

Typing and searching and reading on this phone is making me feel violent! :'(

Can one of you guys with a passion for understanding computer problems help me on my way here?
I'm really screwed. Can't work at all and was already super behind in everything I was doing anyway.

Info, advice, experience, whatever you got!

The gpu has thunderbolt and vdi so I can go to buy a win monitor and try that for not too much (then return if I want) but is there away I can figure this out for certain at home, without spending cash first?

Thanks!
Title: Re: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: archonforest on August 02, 2014, 07:03:02 AM
If no pic then it usually boils down to 3 things. VGA card dead, monitor dead, vga cable dead. Or the connections on one of them. Actually the connector on the mobo can be dead as well so 4. Now borrow:
-another monitor, another vga cable, another vga card.

Try to swap them around to isolate the problem. If after all still no picture then the chance of dead vga connector on the mobo is getting high.

If u have another vga connector on the mobo try that one. Many computers usually have at least 2 or more vga connector. So if one is dead then another can be utilized.
Title: Re: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: PabloMack on August 02, 2014, 11:36:12 AM
Many flat-panel TVs can work as a computer monitor. Mine has both VGA and HDMI ports.
Title: Re: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: TheBadger on August 02, 2014, 06:03:22 PM
Thanks guys. Looks like it is in fact only the monitor. And may only be the cords. Hope so! That will be the least costly issue.

Title: Re: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: inkydigit on August 03, 2014, 10:01:11 AM
That's great news, fingers crossed for you!
:)
J
Title: Re: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: archonforest on August 04, 2014, 09:58:22 AM
Great news :D
Title: Re: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: TheBadger on August 07, 2014, 01:39:54 AM
$600.00 to fix by apple. I thought of a lot of curse words, but I didn't say them :P

I bought an asus for $289 after tax a few days ago. I wanted it for extra real estate and to use while my main monitor was down. But now with not having my apple monitor I have to use the asus as my only monitor. Which sucks. the resolution is terrible and I can tell just by looking at it that I cant trust color.
Compared to my cinema screen its a real step down.

I was happy when I bought it because I thought it would just be extra work space. but

Anyway, the funny part is I paid for 3years apple care for the cinema display, but this asus came with 3year extra warranty for free. Did not even have to sign up. But the quality is far from what the apple was, you don't even have to do any tests. Its stark obvious.

Can you guys recommend a monitor on par or better than the apple cinema display (current model), that is a good amount less then the apple?
No TVs though please. I need a primary monitor not a TV.And I am not going to buy apple monitors anymore. I *may* still buy apple when it comes time to upgrade desktop, but anything that plugs in I will absolutely shop around for.

Thanks if you have any models you can point out.
Title: Re: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: Dune on August 07, 2014, 02:36:11 AM
Eizo is really good, and affordable. I have a Flexscan S2431W. Not huge but nice to work in.
Title: Re: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: archonforest on August 07, 2014, 02:52:00 AM
What is your budget?
Otherwise here is one that not a pro but good for the price:
Dell UltraSharp 2412HM.
Title: Re: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: Oshyan on August 12, 2014, 05:21:50 PM
Apple uses LG panels I believe, so most anything with an LG panel would be a good match. These articles might also help:
http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/apple-monitor-27-inch-display-monoprice/
http://lifehacker.com/three-cheap-but-awesome-alternatives-to-the-apple-cinem-1500692411

I personally have a Viewsonic IPS monitor I'm pretty happy with. And you'll find that IPS (display technology) is one of the main distinguishing factors for higher quality color reproduction. If your ASUS monitor is TN or anything else other than an IPS variant, then that's probably why it looks worse. It's not a *brand* issue, it's a model/technology issue (ASUS sells IPS panels too).

- Oshyan
Title: Re: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: TheBadger on August 17, 2014, 10:54:34 PM
Thanks Oshyan. That is helpful to me. Im curious if on the Monoprice  monitor I could just take out the panel and drop it in my apple monitor frame? Does not matter too much, just curious about it.
Title: Re: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: Oshyan on August 19, 2014, 01:10:07 AM
No, that's not an operation you'd want to try yourself.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: TheBadger on August 19, 2014, 02:15:07 AM
Quote from: Oshyan on August 19, 2014, 01:10:07 AM
No, that's not an operation you'd want to try yourself.

- Oshyan

Yeah I figured. Just don't know what to do with this paper weight I got now. Was hoping at least I could reuse the frame, which is quite nice.

Anyone got any realistic ideas about what I could do with the mac monitor?? Hate to just throw it out or drop it off for recycling. There has got to be a way I can get something back on it?
Title: Re: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: Dune on August 19, 2014, 02:24:19 AM
Sell it to a handy guy who might be able to repair it, or let him pay only when he can fix it, so it's win/win.
Title: Re: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: TheBadger on August 19, 2014, 02:31:07 AM
It cant be fixed. Only replaced. Thats why apple wanted 600 bucks.. I could be wrong of course, but as i understand it it no one can fix a dead LED/LCD/plazma panel...? ? ? ?
Title: Re: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: Dune on August 19, 2014, 02:33:44 AM
Dump it and forget about it. Get on with your project.... I'm curious!!
Title: Re: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: Upon Infinity on August 19, 2014, 10:52:29 AM
Quote from: TheBadger on August 19, 2014, 02:31:07 AM
It cant be fixed. Only replaced. Thats why apple wanted 600 bucks.. I could be wrong of course, but as i understand it it no one can fix a dead LED/LCD/plazma panel...? ? ? ?

Probably depends on what's wrong with it.  But as is generally the case with these things, it is rarely worth it to fix as opposed to buying something new.
Title: Re: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: archonforest on August 19, 2014, 11:09:37 AM
This is what I would do. Find a trust able(like who will tell you the truth for real) repair guy and ask him if it worth to fix it. If not just dump it and get a new toy :D
Title: Re: When the universe craps on you, it really stinks.
Post by: Oshyan on August 19, 2014, 05:10:04 PM
Depends on what's broken with it. Just because Apple, the king of charging for everything (and charging more than everyone else for the *same* thing), wants to charge you $600 to fix it doesn't mean it's something that actually costs $600 to fix. It could just be the backlight or power supply/regulator, or a number of other relatively cheap fixes. Manufacturers will *always* charge you as much as they can. A savvy person might be able to fix it themselves. But that does *not* mean I'd recommend you try to figure it out. :D

- Oshyan