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Post by: Kadri on January 17, 2015, 03:25:06 AM

Two more doodles.
Don't remember making so many images so fast even if they are doodles  ???


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Post by: mhaze on January 17, 2015, 05:15:10 AM
I really like the first one, really strong compostion and nice textures.
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Post by: Kadri on January 17, 2015, 06:08:38 AM
Quote from: mhaze on January 17, 2015, 05:15:10 AM
I really like the first one, really strong compostion and nice textures.

Thanks.
I really tried hard to find a comp that i liked.I wanted to make an image with minimal work.
It begun as a doodle but i like the end result too actually.
I think there is only 5-10% or less work left...like more detailed ground-stones.
A good object like a spaceship etc. would be nice too maybe but i think it isn't needed in this one.

The second one was to see how it would look without an atmosphere.
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Post by: archonforest on January 17, 2015, 06:28:57 AM
Hey very nice! Love the 1st one ;)
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Post by: Kadri on January 17, 2015, 09:00:37 AM

Thanks :)
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Post by: Dune on January 17, 2015, 09:49:12 AM
Yeah, I like the first one too. Nice to have time to doodle, huh?
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Post by: Mahnmut on January 17, 2015, 10:44:14 AM
Very nice!
just one point out of couriosity:
but why do the two moons/planets so  different phases (crescent/half)? that only works if the two are roughly  as far from each other than from the sun.

Cheers,
J
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Post by: Kadri on January 17, 2015, 11:20:50 AM
Quote from: Dune on January 17, 2015, 09:49:12 AM
Yeah, I like the first one too. Nice to have time to doodle, huh?

Thanks Ulco and i have so many time because i am waiting for renders to finish on 3 computers :)

Quote from: Mahnmut on January 17, 2015, 10:44:14 AM
Very nice!
just one point out of couriosity:
but why do the two moons/planets so  different phases (crescent/half)? that only works if the two are roughly  as far from each other than from the sun.
...

Thanks and good point. The small moon isn't actually so small as it looks. It is on the far side of the planet-rings :)

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Post by: TheBadger on January 17, 2015, 09:43:40 PM
Wow man, you have been making a lot of very cool images this month! I like the first image here too, but on my phone, the dark one looks really great, not so much on my desktop though.
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Post by: masonspappy on January 18, 2015, 02:46:35 AM
Eye Catching. Nice work!
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Post by: Kadri on January 18, 2015, 03:31:56 AM

Thanks guys.
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Post by: Hannes on January 18, 2015, 06:28:13 AM
I prefer the first one too. It looks really epic. I agree about the different lighting of the moon and the planet. Even though I have no idea what is correct, my eyes want to see them both equally lit.
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Post by: Kadri on January 18, 2015, 06:54:01 AM

Thanks Hannes. Even it isn't a error i will try to place it closer and see how it will look. Just curious too.
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Post by: Kadri on January 18, 2015, 08:21:31 AM

Ok i tried it. It was kinda interesting.

Even if i put a smaller version of the moon closer to us if it is in the same position you get the same kind of shadow.
Only when i change its position horizontally to the left it gets the same shadow like the big planet.

It makes sense when you think about it. When it is on the right side we see more of the shiny side.
When it is on the left side more from the shadow part.

So i thought if we are very very far away and zoom in (kinda orthographic view) then the shadows should nearly look the same and when i tried it it looked so actually.
It depends how close we are to the objects and in which relative position we are as it should i think.

So no change, sorry guys physics don't let me change it and i don't want to fake it :)


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Post by: zaxxon on January 18, 2015, 01:50:16 PM
Beautiful images, the composition trumps the physics here!
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Post by: Kadri on January 18, 2015, 02:26:42 PM

Thanks :)

I wanted just to tried another thing.
I was curious how it might look if i have used a little more real scale numbers for the planets and the distance.
But it got a little funky when i tried that. So i am not sure how it would look when there are real scales in the play.


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Post by: choronr on January 18, 2015, 02:52:30 PM
A striking image here that first one Kadri; and, as it could actually be somewhere in the vast Universe.
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Post by: Kadri on January 18, 2015, 03:06:08 PM

Thank you.
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Post by: Hannes on January 18, 2015, 03:37:32 PM
Yes, I guess it's a real scale issue. I'm just thinking loud now, but if the sun would have the exact same distance to the earth like in real life, would the shadows look as expected?
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Post by: Kadri on January 18, 2015, 03:38:25 PM
Quote from: Hannes on January 18, 2015, 03:37:32 PM
Yes, I guess it's a real scale issue. I'm just thinking loud now, but if the sun would have the exact same distance to the earth like in real life, would the shadows look as expected?

Curious too.
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Post by: Mahnmut on January 19, 2015, 03:27:14 PM
to emphasize it again, these are great images,
I like them very much!
I just wondered about the phases because I have had the same effect in some of my images, and I think it should only occur when your sun is really close in relation to the distance between two planets or moons.
So, does the TG-Sun have a real location, or is it a source of parallel light? or what else?
My best Regards,
J
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Post by: Matt on January 19, 2015, 04:38:17 PM
This would be easy to test by putting two spheres very close to the camera and with approximately the same composition in the picture.

Matt
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Post by: Matt on January 19, 2015, 04:42:13 PM
Quote from: Mahnmut on January 19, 2015, 03:27:14 PM
So, does the TG-Sun have a real location, or is it a source of parallel light? or what else?

Sunlights in Terragen have parallel light which simulates the sun being infinitely far away.

Matt
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Post by: Kadri on January 19, 2015, 04:51:26 PM
Quote from: Mahnmut on January 19, 2015, 03:27:14 PM
to emphasize it again, these are great images,
I like them very much!
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No worry :)

I made these tests you can see below.

I think the sun in Terragen is more like a parallel lightsource (i looked at the wiki but could not find the answer there).
Especially if you look at the last crop (same scene as the last rendered image with all from above) directly from Terragen where the sun position is.
Edit:Matt gave the answer already as i wrote this

There is some difference but that looks still from the relative angle to the camera to me.
Not sure of course.

The moon and planets are unrealistically close as you can see from the last rendered image.
So i am still not sure what the right answer is(regarding real world scales).


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Post by: Kadri on January 24, 2015, 10:07:36 AM

Just for fun.


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Post by: Dune on January 25, 2015, 04:02:30 AM
Nice.
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Post by: Kadri on January 25, 2015, 04:20:32 AM

Thanks.
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Post by: TheBadger on January 25, 2015, 04:34:32 PM
 8)
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Post by: Kadri on January 25, 2015, 04:39:04 PM
:)
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Post by: Dune on January 26, 2015, 03:49:00 AM
 ???
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Post by: Kadri on January 26, 2015, 07:36:51 AM

This could go for very long  ::)  :D
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Post by: Dune on January 26, 2015, 09:17:40 AM
Yes, silly stuff.  :-X
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Post by: Kadri on January 26, 2015, 09:23:02 AM
Quote from: Dune on January 26, 2015, 09:17:40 AM
Yes, silly stuff.  :-X

You know i like it sometimes  :P
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Post by: bobbystahr on January 26, 2015, 10:24:58 AM
Very nice...a good intro scene for titles or the like.
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Post by: Kadri on January 26, 2015, 10:30:51 AM

Thanks. I might use this in my animation maybe at half HD resolution.