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Title: Wildflowers - Final (Serious this time)
Post by: Gannaingh on March 11, 2015, 08:14:03 PM
I've decided to take a stab at an alpine meadow full of wildflowers. The terrain is of Mt. Rainier, near Mazama Ridge, with some erosion and snow added in World Machine. All told there are 16 populations, which made for higher than expected render times, but wasn't really a problem. I want to do some work with the mid-ground trees to give ore variety in variety and color. Thanks for looking.

Title: Re: Wildflowers
Post by: Oshyan on March 11, 2015, 10:18:19 PM
Looks quite nice already! I like most of the scene, but for some reason the clouds in particular look very good to me. Just very natural, not showy or anything, just realistic. Overall I think exposure could be upped a tad. Nothing is overly dark and perhaps this mood fits the weather best, but it just seems a little dim and dull in light and overall "punch" to me... The varied lighting on the mountain looks great though, I must say. :)

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Wildflowers
Post by: Dune on March 12, 2015, 03:05:59 AM
I agree with Oshyan; very nice, but on the dark side.
Title: Re: Wildflowers
Post by: archonforest on March 12, 2015, 03:35:33 AM
Pretty nice one!
Title: Re: Wildflowers
Post by: mhaze on March 12, 2015, 05:44:02 AM
Excellent work - those clouds are great.  I too find it too dark.
Title: Re: Wildflowers
Post by: archonforest on March 12, 2015, 06:01:45 AM
Quote from: mhaze on March 12, 2015, 05:44:02 AM
I too find it too dark.
It must be dark... right Lord Vader? :D
Title: Re: Wildflowers
Post by: bobbystahr on March 12, 2015, 08:13:14 AM
In the low mountain areas this kind of lighting is common...very like British Columbia CA on a typical overcast day in the mountains. Big Like, and not too dark for me....
Title: Re: Wildflowers
Post by: Oshyan on March 12, 2015, 05:38:00 PM
I think it's just that if I were standing there as a photographer, I would increase exposure to get a more pleasing effect.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Wildflowers
Post by: Gannaingh on March 12, 2015, 09:08:51 PM
Thank you, all, for the input! The "dark" side must be strong with this one! lol
Title: Re: Wildflowers
Post by: Oshyan on March 12, 2015, 09:59:23 PM
Well, you *are* Darth Vader, so I'm not really surprised. ;)

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Wildflowers
Post by: bobbystahr on March 13, 2015, 02:03:07 AM
heh heh heh
Title: Re: Wildflowers V2
Post by: Gannaingh on March 16, 2015, 08:46:19 PM
Version 2 has been brought a bit closer to the light side of the force. I upped the exposure, changed the sun's heading, and made the rock surfaces more interesting and detailed. Coming along nicely, it is.

Title: Re: Wildflowers V2
Post by: TheBadger on March 16, 2015, 10:40:15 PM
I think that made a pretty big difference really. Put side to side, I really like this new one much more.
Title: Re: Wildflowers V2
Post by: Oshyan on March 16, 2015, 11:22:54 PM
Yeeesss, yeeeesssss. The force is strong with this one. :D

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Wildflowers V2
Post by: bobbystahr on March 17, 2015, 12:19:47 AM
It may just be me but the snow seems mighty thick on the slopes compared to the 'full summer' flora you have happening... which looks great btw, just seems at seasonal odds from front to back
Title: Re: Wildflowers V2
Post by: Dune on March 17, 2015, 02:43:46 AM
Agreed, I like this much more as well.
Title: Re: Wildflowers V2
Post by: ADE on March 17, 2015, 03:30:47 PM
love the 4 tiers effect......imo wrong type of flower for this (ihave not read recent posts so if anyone has mentioned it i apologise)
something more like something other than tallish?
Title: Re: Wildflowers V2
Post by: Oshyan on March 17, 2015, 04:53:35 PM
Er... http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01702/Alpine-Flowers_620_1702897a.jpg
:D

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Wildflowers V2
Post by: Henry Blewer on March 17, 2015, 08:18:40 PM
Some sunbeams shining down onto the flowers would provide more contrast and brighten up the image. But honestly, I would be very pleased with this render had I made it.
Title: Re: Wildflowers V2
Post by: DocCharly65 on March 18, 2015, 03:27:04 AM
The second render looks great!
Title: Re: Wildflowers V2
Post by: bobbystahr on March 20, 2015, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: Oshyan on March 17, 2015, 04:53:35 PM
Er... http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01702/Alpine-Flowers_620_1702897a.jpg
:D

- Oshyan

D'oh
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final
Post by: Gannaingh on March 31, 2015, 07:46:17 PM
Here is the final version. I'd spend more time on it, but my brain wants to hop from project to project making finishing one difficult. I might have to come back to this one since there is room for improvement, especially in mastering WM's snow function to get a more "summer" feel to it. Thanks for taking a look!
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final
Post by: choronr on March 31, 2015, 08:04:12 PM
Oh my gosh, this is absolutely beautiful.
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final
Post by: Gannaingh on March 31, 2015, 08:08:49 PM
Thank you :)
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final
Post by: bobbystahr on March 31, 2015, 08:25:04 PM
Being unfamiliar with alpine scenarios I stand corrected by Oshyan and and with draw my previous critique, the snow is quite appropriate and this is a lovely image.
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final
Post by: Lady of the Lake on March 31, 2015, 10:47:23 PM
This is a gorgeous image.
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final
Post by: Oshyan on March 31, 2015, 11:59:53 PM
Certainly a gorgeous end result. I actually prefer the previous smoother snow setup, it seemed to give a better sense of (large, distant) scale, but overall the final is an improvement in almost every respect. Well done!

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final
Post by: choronr on April 01, 2015, 12:48:00 AM
May I ask what conifers did you use here?
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final
Post by: bobbystahr on April 01, 2015, 12:53:28 AM
Quote from: choronr on April 01, 2015, 12:48:00 AM
May I ask what conifers did you use here?

They are nice eh Bob. Wondering myself.
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final
Post by: Dune on April 01, 2015, 02:34:56 AM
Stunningly realistic!
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final
Post by: Gannaingh on April 01, 2015, 08:31:34 AM
Thank you, all!

The conifers are a whole mess Xfrog models. I used the Douglas Fir (m), Incense Cedar (m), White Fir (m), Western Red Cedar (m),  Eastern Hemlock (a), Incense Cedar (y), and White Fir (y). I could probably get away with using less variety since they're hard to tell apart at a distance.
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final
Post by: bobbystahr on April 01, 2015, 10:12:07 AM
O K...it's the cedars that caught my eye, I have the Incense Cedar, Western Red Cedar, White Fir, Eastern Hemlock but no Douglas Fir. Only missing the Douglas Fir so I may try this  blend as I like it a lot. To my colour blind eye there's nice colour variation...dunno bout for "normally sighted" folk. Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Continued
Post by: Gannaingh on April 09, 2015, 08:13:41 PM
Ok, I lied about being done with this one. I've changed the FOV and aspect ratio to emphasize the mountain. I also spent time in WM making the snow function do what I wanted. Now instead of a full blanket of snow, I have a closer representation of summer glacial remnants which, I feel, works better with the vibrant vegetation and blooming wildflowers. I still want to work some more with the forest distribution, but overall I think the changes have been an improvement.

Title: Re: Wildflowers - Continued
Post by: bobbystahr on April 09, 2015, 09:40:02 PM
Quote from: darthvader1 on April 09, 2015, 08:13:41 PM
Ok, I lied about being done with this one. I've changed the FOV and aspect ratio to emphasize the mountain. I also spent time in WM making the snow function do what I wanted. Now instead of a full blanket of snow, I have a closer representation of summer glacial remnants which, I feel, works better with the vibrant vegetation and blooming wildflowers. I still want to work some more with the forest distribution, but overall I think the changes have been an improvement.




Gasp...mind blowing difference. It really shows the beauty if the mountain terrain now.... your little lie is easily forgiven....thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Continued
Post by: choronr on April 09, 2015, 11:14:48 PM
Beautiful effort; your extra work was worth every minute.
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Continued
Post by: Dune on April 10, 2015, 02:52:23 AM
Yes, I like this much better!
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Continued
Post by: mhaze on April 10, 2015, 04:05:36 AM
Absolutely stunning!
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Continued
Post by: Walli on April 10, 2015, 04:46:30 AM
veeeery nice!
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Continued
Post by: bigben on April 10, 2015, 06:58:40 AM
Very nice indeed.
Can I be evil and suggest it seems to be missing some elevation data near the horizon on the left?  I'm guessing if you extended the terrain to 120km wide you'd see some more distant mountains on the horizon unless it's looking upwards (which it doesn't appear to be)  Maybe something to try in the next project  ;)
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Continued
Post by: Antoine on April 10, 2015, 08:18:30 AM
Much much realism in this render. Impressive one !
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Continued
Post by: Gannaingh on April 10, 2015, 08:33:11 AM
Thank you everybody!

Ben, you have a sharp eye, an evil one ;) but sharp! The terrain does indeed cut off about 20km behind the mountain. However, the camera is pointing up seven degrees so any terrain would be obscured by the mountain's flank. I had a DEM for the entire state in the file, but it was invisible from this POV so I disabled it.
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Continued
Post by: bobbystahr on April 10, 2015, 10:21:42 AM
Well spotted Ben...takes a pro with them DEMs to notice.....
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Continued
Post by: otakar on April 10, 2015, 01:57:06 PM
Holy crap, that's beautiful! I may need to print this one and hang on the office wall.
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final (Serious this time)
Post by: Gannaingh on April 22, 2015, 08:58:35 AM
Here's a bigger version with some minor tweaks and population editing. I rendered it at 4608x2048, which is too big to upload to the forums, so if you want a full size version shoot me a PM and I'll email you a copy. I'm done with this one...I think ;)

Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final (Serious this time)
Post by: kaedorg on April 22, 2015, 12:05:39 PM
Just beautiful !!!
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final (Serious this time)
Post by: mhaze on April 22, 2015, 12:28:18 PM
Superb!
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final (Serious this time)
Post by: otakar on April 22, 2015, 03:57:14 PM
Splendid. Just letting you know the print is hanging on my office wall right beneath Ulco's medieval Dutch town and Little Dakota Creek from zaxxon. People think it's a photo of course :)
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final (Serious this time)
Post by: Gannaingh on April 22, 2015, 08:12:27 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final (Serious this time)
Post by: Dune on April 23, 2015, 02:44:22 AM
You changed your forum name, but I've seen that name before. Or am I not awake yet?
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final (Serious this time)
Post by: Gannaingh on April 23, 2015, 08:22:13 AM
Ineed I did. I changed it so that it match my deviantart name, you've probably seen it when I linked to images there. 
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final (Serious this time)
Post by: DocCharly65 on April 23, 2015, 09:17:04 AM
Independent of the name - absolutely beautiful!
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final (Serious this time)
Post by: DannyG on April 23, 2015, 11:53:47 AM
excellent
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final (Serious this time)
Post by: mindsap on April 23, 2015, 06:02:58 PM
That is one beautiful render. ;)
Title: Re: Wildflowers - Final (Serious this time)
Post by: inkydigit on April 26, 2015, 05:25:07 AM
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Super cool, really superb!
Well done, my wife says quizzically "is that Terragen??"
That, I can assure you is a complement of the highest order!
:)
Cheers
Jason