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Title: Alpine
Post by: Cocateho on June 19, 2015, 08:42:02 AM
WIP, I'm pleased with the overall look but I feel like there's still a lot more that can be done with this one. Any suggestions/ideas are welcome.
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: archonforest on June 19, 2015, 10:24:45 AM
flock of birds?
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Post by: Clay on June 19, 2015, 02:08:58 PM
Very nice render.
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: Dune on June 20, 2015, 02:50:51 AM
Yes, it's a very nice render already, but something added may increase its appeal. Suggestions: some remnants of snow, very scarce, in gullies high up, under the fresh snow tops (use displ. intersect), and maybe something like a small rocky pool right in front, between the trees (make a slightly opener space there.
Nice trees, btw, what are they?
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: Cocateho on June 20, 2015, 02:05:48 PM
Here's a large crop with some edits. put in a flock of birds too  ;D I don't have any bird objects so I found a silhouette picture of a flock on google and made a billboard out of it, so that's part of the reason its so far away and small so you can't tell that they don't just look like little black dots, they really are haha. Dune, I like your idea on the snow, but I had this rendered before I saw your post. I'm working on putting in a stream actually. Never done one before. I'm using a painted shader with a water shader masked to it. Unfortunately it's really cranking up render times even with small tests. Any reason it should do this? I have a surface layer masked to the painted shader and the water as a child of the surface layer. Is it something in the set up or might it just be the water? It's almost doubling render time.
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: archonforest on June 20, 2015, 03:51:51 PM
I like this view very much. I see the birds too ;D
No hard feelings But I do not like those clouds... :-[
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Post by: Hetzen on June 20, 2015, 04:35:31 PM
I agree with archonforest. This as a plate for the ground would be fine, maybe more variation in the rock greys if it was a high rez still. But the sky needs work for me to believe in it.
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: Cocateho on June 20, 2015, 08:53:16 PM
A few more tweaks. Also Dune, to answer your question about the trees All of them are xfrog I think, grand fir, hemlock, and nikko fir, the dead tress are tamarack. All I distorted to be skinnier, like you often see trees grow in alpine or boreal forests.
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: Dune on June 21, 2015, 02:20:16 AM
Thanks for the info. The width of the snow in gullies should be much higher. Try 5m or even 10 (in displacement intersection), and adjust other settings until it looks right and not so dotty. I'd also leave the cloud out completely or some very scare haze perhaps.
Water shader for a stream isn't necessary at all. If you paint it and have the surface layer, just make some bluish green color, and perhaps a reflective noRT shader for some shine. Saves lots on rendertime.
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: DocCharly65 on June 21, 2015, 09:54:59 AM
If you do with the snow as Dune proposed, it will be great.
Already very good from my view.
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: Cocateho on June 21, 2015, 08:44:06 PM
First test for a stream. Working on adding some foam. Still can't get the snow to do what I want it too  :-\
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: Cocateho on June 21, 2015, 11:38:08 PM
close up of the stream with some foam added to look more like small rapids
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: Dune on June 22, 2015, 02:33:43 AM
Pretty convincing already. If you keep it small, a set of watercolors, foam and reflective shader do wonders. As for the snow; did you set smoothing of the surface layer after displacement intersection, and do you have the normal setup with a 20m patch compute terrain? Might help with smoothing snow if you set that 20 to 50 or so. It looks very strange now. And no slope restriction with intersection!
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: mhaze on June 22, 2015, 03:08:23 AM
This coming along nicely - looking forward to the final render. With the snow I often use several layers with different settings.
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: DannyG on June 22, 2015, 12:32:15 PM
This is developing nicely, I look forward to the next render
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: Cocateho on June 22, 2015, 09:38:15 PM
I'll call this a semi-final render. I still need to get the snow right, and I'll probably tweak a couple other things. Dune, I do have slope restrictions on so I'll tinker with that and see what happens.
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: Dune on June 23, 2015, 01:48:44 AM
I thought so. Then you get very abrupt smoothing on a small scale, hence spiky snow.
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: Cocateho on June 24, 2015, 08:21:19 PM
A little update. Moved both the tree and snow lines up, although I think I moved the snow a little too far. Laid a dead tree across the stream as well.
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: Dune on June 25, 2015, 02:11:45 AM
Yeah, snow is a bit too high now. And I'd move the camera a few meters to the right for more view on stream.
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: archonforest on June 25, 2015, 03:56:14 AM
Gettin better and better. Echo Dune ideas.
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: DocCharly65 on June 25, 2015, 04:01:09 AM
I think I see a dead tree in the foreground already... perhaps move it a little the stream up.
The snow still a little problem.

But great work so far!
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: Kadri on June 25, 2015, 06:29:27 AM

Looks good. I would prefer the camera a little to the right too.
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: Cocateho on June 25, 2015, 05:47:03 PM
Changed the camera position, Brought the snow down a little, may still need a bit more.
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: WAS on June 25, 2015, 11:49:35 PM
Such a nice piece your mapping for the forest populations are really nice. Definitely jealous of the quality here. ;) Can't wait to see more.
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: Dune on June 26, 2015, 02:23:30 AM
Yes, this is a good improvement. maybe the camera needs to be a little lower to see the fallen tree, and indeed, bring the snow down.
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: archonforest on June 26, 2015, 06:13:37 AM
Great improvement! Yeah get the snow more down :)
Title: Re: Alpine
Post by: bobbystahr on June 27, 2015, 12:13:42 PM
Quote from: Dune on June 26, 2015, 02:23:30 AM
Yes, this is a good improvement. maybe the camera needs to be a little lower to see the fallen tree, and indeed, bring the snow down.

echo...looking awesome already though.