Got this developing in my wrists from using the mouse, leaving me nearly unable to work. Anyone else get this? And what was your solution?
This last year i am too much working on the computer.
My wrist and lastly especially index finger is hurting really bad.
I use a mouse pad with a wrist rest but it helps only so much.
If i wasn't working and just playing i would use my left hand.
That did help in the past. Obvious things like working less helped too of course.
I had friends who had to go thru surgery.
Did you go to a doctor (i did not :) ) ? That might be the best way to get a solution.
I never heard of such a thing. Is that a form of inflammation?
http://www.medicinenet.com/repetitive_motion_disorders_rmds/article.htm
In another forum it was said that using different devices (trackball,tablet and pen,touchscreens etc) were a good help too.
If they weren't so expensive i would like to buy a big tablet and pen.
I use an el cheepo Bamboo tablet from wacom...mousing was hurting me as well....keeping my Face Book time down as y need the wheel.
Also my chiropractor was most helpful straightening out what I was buggering up. His style is Network Chiropractic and it is largely craino-sacral therapy with some spinal and special needs work(my wrists, fore arms and feet) at the end. I find it helps 'puter posture as well as he told me to stop crossing my legs while sitting long periods. D'oh....I shoulda known....but sometime I gotta be told.
The computer mouse is a disasterous tool for this kind of thing. One solution is to use a tablet. You won't get strain from that because holding a pen is much more natural. I've had strain from using a mouse. Not actual damage though. I stop before that happens. The ultimate is a Wacon Cintiq. You won't get any strain ever from using that but they are expensive. This is also why I despite computer software that forces you to do things in inefficient ways with multitudes of clicks.
I have not gone to a doctor, Kadri. But it's getting to a point where that's going to be necessary. It's been a near constant for about 10 months. And gotten worse in the last couple weeks.
Surgery isn't an option, as that will require downtime, and could potentially mess things up in there even worse. It's a long term problem that needs a long term solution.
I think I'll restrict my computer time to just rendering and a few other tasks. I have a Surface Pro, which is similar to a WACOM Cintiq. I've already switched to this device for modelling purposes, so I may have to use it for all other non-rendering tasks, as well. It uses a stylus. It's interesting; I use a mouse with the right hand, but a stylus with the left. And yes, Efflux, you can get it from a stylus, too, but its not as bad.
I'm also looking at one of these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx4o_OrP6xA
And I think mandatory hourly breaks are going to be necessary, too.
I'm also looking at some tips: http://ergo.human.cornell.edu/cumousetips.html
All i use is my Wacom and i do not recall the last time i ever used a mouse. It helps with the hands in proper position for certain.
So it is a form of inflammation. Those Chinese hand balls might help. Those are supposed to be good for those types of issues.
Quote from: Upon Infinity on August 08, 2015, 09:47:41 PM
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I'm also looking at one of these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx4o_OrP6xA
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I'm also looking at some tips: http://ergo.human.cornell.edu/cumousetips.html
The first link devices are interesting.Not sure how much they help.
The second link was interesting too. Especially "Don't use a Wrist Rest" part. I will try and use those tips.
I'm getting old and had the same problem - I eventually tracked it down to muscle loss. As a rock climber in my youth I developed very strong wrists, when I stopped climbing in my fifties I lost a lot of that power. When I started getting repetitive strain injury I went back to doing some old wrist exercises and the pain disappeared. So try strengthening your wrists. STOP using a mouse and if you can't then don't rest your hand on the mouse when you are not using it. Learn keyboard shortcuts.
If at all possible, do yourself a big favor and invest in health/Wacom! Especially if you a lot of computer work. I've got an Intuos 3 and can't do without. Typing with pen between fingers, far easier manoeuvring of stuff, and drawing in Photoshop, and no more RSI at all, which I also had when still mousing.
I actually have a Wacom tablet for such uses. It is an older model, however, and for whatever reason, the drivers only load half the time. I may have better luck with a new model, maybe.
Drivers are a (slight) problem indeed. Perhaps uninstalling and install again helps. Try the latest drivers, but take care; I had this sudden BSOD when installing the wrong driver. I also have occasions where it says; driver not loaded, while it's running perfectly. So I uninstalled and installed, and now that's over as well.
Since 3 days i have worked much less on the computer and since this thread i don't use the mouse pad with wrist support.
I already feel a little better. Still have pain but it is half as bad :)
Quote from: Kadri on August 10, 2015, 12:17:37 PM
Since 3 days i have worked much less on the computer and since this thread i don't use the mouse pad with wrist support.
I already feel a little better. Still have pain but it is half as bad :)
That's great. Yeah, I think wrist supports are short term benefits with long term drawbacks. I had the same thing with eye drops and screen strain. Good in the short term, but don't solve the problem.
I'm going to give my Wacom tablet another go based on Dunes driver suggestions.
Yeah looks like i have to save money for a Wacom too.Will take some time :)
Intuos 3 PTZ630. A5 sized is big enough. Perfect! Almost as important as a HD.
Looks good Ulco. One thing that makes me hesitate a little is my 3 monitor setup.
Another user said that it isn't a problem.Do anyone here use a tablet with 2-3 monitors?
Taking daily vitamins and Multi mineral tablets can help to heal and prevent similar things. But do not buy these plastic vitamins that u can get in an general drug store(Aphoteke) or whatever the name of this shops. Get to a fitness center or order some from the net. Vitamin B Complex is excellent for the nerv system just make sure you get a good dosage. There is one called B-50 complex. Meaning in the capsule the majority of the b vitamins are presented in 50mg dosage. If u take this make sure you take at least 500mg C vit together. 1000mg would be better.
Agreed and do not forget that food itself can heal. Sense this is an inflammatory issue, it would be a good idea to see if that is possibly contributing to the issue. Simple carbohydrates, starchy and sugary food sources can be a serious cause for any type of inflammatory conditions. There are food sources that are helpful to be anti-inflammatory such as leafy greens, especially powerful in juice form, the good fats, ginger. Basically, a more plant-based diet helps in these areas and in many, many others. Lots and lots of water.
I have taken thousands of milligrams of C, it is safe to do when particularly sick. I have done this more times then i can count so no harm. You just extract some of it out. ;) B's are great but make sure they are not junk sources and from plant/food sourced.
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/ These folks are great.
Make sure to avoid opiate based pain killers as much as possible. In the US, it seems there is an addiction to pain killers with a negligence to eliminate the real cause of what causes inflammation. Pain killers only mask the pain in the end.
type this in google, will help you almost immediately! I do it everyday.: motion exercises for carpal tunnel
Hey Kadri, see here: http://www.lightroomfanatic.com/tutorials/advanced/tip-using-wacom-tablet-dual-monitors-lightroom-photoshop/ (http://www.lightroomfanatic.com/tutorials/advanced/tip-using-wacom-tablet-dual-monitors-lightroom-photoshop/) and maybe google some more. I think it's possible, at least with 2 monitors.
And here's some text I read on another forum:
QuoteThe wacom control pallet (go for Wacom!) let you fine tune several settings, even on a program by program basis but even without using it, using 2 (or more) screens is really very comfortable. The only drawback is that you never will go back to using 1 screen :-)
If you don't already own a tablet you should think about the size you will buy. Larger tablets are not only much more expensive they also have a very large footprint and they require big movement of the arms while smaller tablets require movement of the wrist. (English is not my native language so I hope you will understand what I am trying to say)
Most people are comfortable with a A5 size but that is of course very personal. Bigger is not always better. Oh well ....
Interesting.Thanks Ulco :)