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Title: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: bobbystahr on January 30, 2016, 01:19:38 PM
Here's a pic for C&C that I started last night. Thanks to red_planet for the conversion of the bridge from .max to .obj.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: archonforest on January 30, 2016, 01:22:57 PM
Great idea and good start. For me the back (part behind the main subject) is pretty empty. Some trees or something would be cool to fill it up.
Some human models on the bridge perhaps?
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: TheBadger on January 31, 2016, 01:42:46 AM
Nice! will like to see a high quality when you are done  8)
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: Dune on January 31, 2016, 02:13:45 AM
I agree with Archon, a bunch of people on the road would be nice, and some trees. Perhaps also something like reeds on the foreground to give some depth.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: bobbystahr on January 31, 2016, 02:40:39 AM
Thanks all...in the mean time awaiting replies I revisited Mr Google to see the source of my inspiration and all comments ring true...except the foreground reeds...not very Japanese/Chinese...they tend to be OCD about contrived landscapes, with trees distorted into wild shapes the main organic input....they like water a lot as well. O K, I'm generalizing but in my mind I had a zen like scene...will I think redesign the scene from scratch I think. Stay tuned
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: TheBadger on January 31, 2016, 04:42:03 AM
some of this may be fun for you B. If you haven't already seen it.
http://3dchaya.com/views/content/us/architecture/houryuji_pagota00.html
http://3dchaya.com/views/content/us/architecture/houryuji_pagota00.html
http://artist-3d.com/free_3d_models/dnm/model_disp.php?count=count&uid=2531

http://3dchaya.com/views/content/us/contents/index.html !

Agree that the rules in east asian art are pretty strict.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: mhaze on January 31, 2016, 07:06:06 AM
Very nice I like the emptiness, much more Asian and very peaceful. Please don't clutter the image. I am not a fan of the clouds, perhaps some long wispy ones.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: Kadri on January 31, 2016, 09:35:29 AM
Nice start.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: AP on January 31, 2016, 04:50:16 PM
This scene has so much potential for some very good minimalism. I would light up the shadows though with a bit more GI so the details can be more appreciated.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: bobbystahr on January 31, 2016, 05:36:40 PM
Quote from: mhaze on January 31, 2016, 07:06:06 AM
Very nice I like the emptiness, much more Asian and very peaceful. Please don't clutter the image. I am not a fan of the clouds, perhaps some long wispy ones.

Doing my best to not clutter it up but the whole image has changed...You may still like it....more to follow..............
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: bobbystahr on January 31, 2016, 05:37:28 PM
Quote from: Chris on January 31, 2016, 04:50:16 PM
This scene has so much potential for some very good minimalism. I would light up the shadows though with a bit more GI so the details can be more appreciated.

see post #10...and GI is on the list
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: AP on January 31, 2016, 06:04:06 PM
I did, it was more an acknowledgement of what was already discussed.    ;)
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: bobbystahr on January 31, 2016, 08:59:19 PM
made some changes, here's a comp of 3 new view and a top down. Couldn't stop myself from breaking up the grass with a Chinese design in honour of the Year of the Monkey tonight.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: AP on January 31, 2016, 09:30:08 PM
Breaking up the grass is very cleaver. I like it.    8)

Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: bobbystahr on January 31, 2016, 10:04:23 PM
Quote from: Chris on January 31, 2016, 09:30:08 PM
Breaking up the grass is very cleaver. I like it.    8)




Thanks Chris
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: AP on January 31, 2016, 10:58:53 PM
Curious, have you ever thought about making a border of a tree line encircling the grass area where the dirt meets the grass? Not certain of it would make a nice border with the whole minimalist theme though. It would be just one single row so not a lot of trees there.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: bobbystahr on January 31, 2016, 11:38:11 PM
Quote from: Chris on January 31, 2016, 10:58:53 PM
Curious, have you ever thought about making a border of a tree line encircling the grass area where the dirt meets the grass? Not certain of it would make a nice border with the whole minimalist theme though. It would be just one single row so not a lot of trees there.

Here's a lo res version of what I'm going with, took just over an hour so I figger overnight for the higher res version.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: AP on January 31, 2016, 11:42:12 PM
That will work and i like the perspective to. The sun is in a very good position. Almost symbolic in a sense.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: Dune on February 01, 2016, 03:06:16 AM
That is really cool. You could add some half open treeline in the distance between the parklike front and the far mountains.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: mhaze on February 01, 2016, 03:54:32 AM
Excellent, try adding a positive displacement to the distant mountains, there is an unnatural hole behind the pool.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: DocCharly65 on February 01, 2016, 04:24:43 AM
I like the minimalism in this image. Very peaceful!
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: red_planet on February 01, 2016, 09:04:00 AM
I really like this !
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: bobbystahr on February 01, 2016, 09:20:25 AM
Well 7 hours in it's almost gone the first 4/7ths, most of  the sky and treetops...almost. I keep designing scenes well beyond the abilities of my confuser to do in any time like the present. Had I the cash I'd be sending all my finals to the farm. I may have to pause the render till tonight as I have some heavy work to do for a friend, and some cash on the computer today. Awaiting that call right now.

update without any of the suggestions as I started the render a while before they were posted...
Mick, the unnatural hole is I think where the SS shader stops on the flattened terrain. In the first iteration it wasn't as visible as the camera was lower. Dunno what to do 'bout it except reset to that camera position.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: bobbystahr on February 01, 2016, 11:28:29 AM
And it hasn't got to the water yet...sigh
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: masonspappy on February 01, 2016, 12:00:11 PM
Very odd, Bobby. Your render is hung up in about the same proportions as my current render (attached)
By any chance are you making heavy use of painted shaders in the bottom third of your image?
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: bobbystahr on February 01, 2016, 12:05:05 PM
Quote from: masonspappy on February 01, 2016, 12:00:11 PM
Very odd, Bobby. Your render is hung up in about the same proportions as my current render (attached)
By any chance are you making heavy use of painted shaders in the bottom third of your image?

nope but a fair bit of displacement and water to come...it's not hung as it's still chipping away at it it 1 pixel bites...I'll likely let this finish as my appointment for today cancelled...a snow day in the country so he ain't driving on country roads.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP*Final*
Post by: bobbystahr on February 02, 2016, 04:42:26 AM
Well here it is 22:53:19 hrs later. Would have posted earlier but I fell asleep watchin' tube while this finished. Thanks for all the help along the way...I am happy with this as it matches the zen vision it started from.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: mhaze on February 02, 2016, 04:52:57 AM
Beautiful just as it is. 

Just for your info - I've had this issue before, mask the background and apply a large positive displacement offset in the basic shader that'a creating the terrain.

Mick
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: AP on February 02, 2016, 05:25:15 AM
Agreed, as it is does match that Zen theme quite well.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: Dune on February 02, 2016, 07:02:49 AM
Great job. I like the stillness, and the subtle paths on the right (and all the rest).
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: bobbystahr on February 02, 2016, 10:53:46 AM
Thanks everyone....this was as peaceful a process to as peaceful an image as I've done in years. Thanks for all the suggestions I wilfully ignored as this image kept itself in my brain no matter what was said.....onward to new stuff now.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: j meyer on February 02, 2016, 01:05:16 PM
Zen yeah.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: AP on February 02, 2016, 06:05:27 PM
When you have an idea in your mind that seems to be just right with every fiber of your being saying this is the way it should look and feel then you go with it.
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: bobbystahr on February 02, 2016, 07:39:13 PM
Quote from: mhaze on February 02, 2016, 04:52:57 AM

Just for your info - I've had this issue before, mask the background and apply a large positive displacement offset in the basic shader that'a creating the terrain.

Mick

That would be the hole you mentioned?..That would be in the PF terrain Displacement Tab?
Title: Re: Moon Bridge WIP
Post by: mhaze on February 03, 2016, 04:06:24 AM
Yes, or put the basic terrain through a separate displacement shader.