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Title: Did it again
Post by: bobbystahr on September 29, 2016, 01:06:24 AM
Quite successfully for once re creating a photo with available veg so similar but not the same and just 10 or 20 thousand instances in no TG4...
thought it minimized as it sometimes does but a quick check  disabused me of that hopeful illusion.
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: Dune on September 29, 2016, 02:34:45 AM
So, where is it?
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: ajcgi on September 29, 2016, 05:02:39 AM
I'm presuming the software just exited then? ;)
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: bobbystahr on September 29, 2016, 11:33:57 AM
Quote from: Dune on September 29, 2016, 02:34:45 AM
So, where is it?

totally just stopped being active, disappeared but restarted fine..fired it up and  I have the main tree in a pop in the middle of the road at 0,0,0 and can't get rid of it. As of last night when I gave up and shut it down. Haven't tried it yet this A M...will post further later.
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: N-drju on October 04, 2016, 08:00:08 AM
Quote from: bobbystahr on September 29, 2016, 01:06:24 AM
Quite successfully for once re creating a photo with available veg so similar but not the same and just 10 or 20 thousand instances in no TG4...
thought it minimized as it sometimes does but a quick check  disabused me of that hopeful illusion.

Sooo, once more, what did you do...? I'm not sure if I understand you right.
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: bobbystahr on October 04, 2016, 09:40:28 AM
Quote from: N-drju on October 04, 2016, 08:00:08 AM
Quote from: bobbystahr on September 29, 2016, 01:06:24 AM
Quite successfully for once re creating a photo with available veg so similar but not the same and just 10 or 20 thousand instances in no TG4...
thought it minimized as it sometimes does but a quick check  disabused me of that hopeful illusion.

Sooo, once more, what did you do...? I'm not sure if I understand you right.

I've decided so not terragen till I get my new box and it's killing me.....
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: Urantia Jerry on October 04, 2016, 10:32:14 AM
Bobby - Buddy; my heart goes out to you ... I hate waiting for really cool new things like this too!
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: N-drju on October 04, 2016, 03:52:12 PM
Oh, now I get it. ;) Sorry to hear you are on a detox. :)
Title: Re: Did it again_ It's Here !
Post by: bobbystahr on October 04, 2016, 04:34:37 PM
It's here, all 8 cores and 16 GB RAM 256 SSD c drive...very snappy. A bit disappointed in the monitor...twas only 720 and awful so I'm using an old one I had given to me years ago a 19" 3x4 ratio LG; but at what he charged me for the computer I can go out and buy an actual monitor....He made me swear to tell no one but I'll leave it at boy o boy did I get lucky. I did get a monitor, a 23" ASUS
Doing a test render at higher AA than I've ever used and in spherical ratio tho not format(2x1)
A medium low cumulus and 2 presets on the ground/mountains.
Will post when it's done, converted and moved over to this pc.....the TG box will never go online.
Here's some pix
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: Dune on October 05, 2016, 02:34:06 AM
Looks like a beast, Bobby. Congratulations! Treat it well, and have it deliver  ;D
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: bobbystahr on October 05, 2016, 05:00:59 AM
Quote from: Dune on October 05, 2016, 02:34:06 AM
Looks like a beast, Bobby. Congratulations! Treat it well, and have it deliver  ;D

Thanks Ulco, if I ever get all my files moved over, trying to pare them down as I move stuff...it was  a real deal that I almost had to sign a NDA to get  so suffice to say I'm a very lucky guy. The T V didn't work out, only a 720 but I sold it to a pal who needed it for 2/3 the monitor price so another stroke...I think I'll buy a lottery ticket.
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: Hannes on October 05, 2016, 06:11:33 AM
Quote from: bobbystahr on October 05, 2016, 05:00:59 AM
...if I ever get all my files moved over, trying to pare them down as I move stuff...

Congrats, Bobby! What about an external HD for all your files? No need to move them anymore.
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: yossam on October 05, 2016, 10:43:41 AM
In the first pic.............is the small panel with the usbs' and fan control vertical or horizontal? Can't really tell from the photos' reflections. Nice looking rig Bobby...........put it to good use.  :)
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: masonspappy on October 05, 2016, 10:47:50 AM
New hardware always makes my heart beat faster ;)
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: Kadri on October 05, 2016, 11:22:27 AM

Happy rendering Bobby  :)
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: archonforest on October 05, 2016, 11:30:25 AM
Cool Bobby! This is the 8 core AMD rig?
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: bobbystahr on October 05, 2016, 03:56:41 PM
Quote from: Hannes on October 05, 2016, 06:11:33 AM
Quote from: bobbystahr on October 05, 2016, 05:00:59 AM
...if I ever get all my files moved over, trying to pare them down as I move stuff...

Congrats, Bobby! What about an external HD for all your files? No need to move them anymore.

Thanks Hannes....They would still require moving from this net box where they've been living..a bit to broke for an EHD at the moment but it is a plan.
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: mhaze on October 06, 2016, 03:36:31 AM
Great to hear you've got your new beast, have fun, looking forward to some great renders!
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: bobbystahr on October 06, 2016, 09:41:18 AM
Was getting a lot of crashes last night so I put it to bed. Most(3 of 4) were population related. I will bash on but have a gig tonight so will be gearing my life to that today. Will start fresh tomorrow. Wondering if the .net thing that shows up when installing it is there as this machine is off line and doesn't get the auto updates this computer does.
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: Oshyan on October 06, 2016, 03:43:09 PM
Have you made sure the graphics drivers are the latest Bobby?

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: bobbystahr on October 06, 2016, 05:09:11 PM
Quote from: Oshyan on October 06, 2016, 03:43:09 PM
Have you made sure the graphics drivers are the latest Bobby?

- Oshyan

Well the guy who built an sold it to me is an AMD rep so I was assuming they were...I'll look at my number and check the site.  Can't do the auto update as this box is staying off line so it'll be a manual check. Getting ready for a gig tonight so depending on how cranked up or tired I am when I get home it's a job for tomorrow. One should never assume....
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: bobbystahr on October 07, 2016, 01:27:59 AM
O K the installed driver date is 4/19/2011 and ver.  8.850.0.0 and checking for 64 bit win 7 which is what I have the ver. is 13.12.
My question is, If I dl the driver will it dl an  exe or some thing or just try to install it on this machine?
Dumb query I know but I've always let the computer handle the thinking on that.
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: Oshyan on October 07, 2016, 01:54:34 AM
It will probably download an installable file, most likely a .exe. It will tell you what kind of file it is when you save it in your browser. I would not recommend using any built-in driver updater in the ATI control panel app.

And yeah, with drivers that old, I'm not surprised there might be issues! Odd that the guy did not install the latest...

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: bobbystahr on October 07, 2016, 02:05:40 AM
Well that was what I am hoping for...would play bloody hell with the card  a 5400 series one if it installed. I'm gonna check with don in the A M as I'm beat...was a good gig, got 70 buck for 2 seemingly short sets and a ride home to boot. But for some reason the playing wore me out tonight....usually energizes me....Thanks for the help Oshyan...g'night.
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: bobbystahr on October 07, 2016, 10:26:52 AM
To top it off it has when I was on this other computer, crashed and rebooted on Wed., and then on the final crash of a pop yesterday instead of closing TG4 which is normal, it did the illegal shutdown and reboot routine. Could this also be a graphics card issue or do I need to call Don and complain ? I am going to in any case as even though inexpensive, it was a large part of my monthly operating cash flow.
this is from before the crashes.
I did this sans veg to check the clouds, water and the erosion plug in. The sky took the bulk of that render time,
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: Dune on October 07, 2016, 11:18:57 AM
Big waves, Bobby. Crashes will always be part of us, I think. I recently also had another few when RTP-viewing a closeup of quite a pop of grass. But I always anticipate that and save before using RTP (and also very regularly).
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: bobbystahr on October 07, 2016, 12:01:28 PM
Quote from: Dune on October 07, 2016, 11:18:57 AM
Big waves, Bobby. Crashes will always be part of us, I think. I recently also had another few when RTP-viewing a closeup of quite a pop of grass. But I always anticipate that and save before using RTP (and also very regularly).

Good advice and I do try that but I think there needs to be a tech tweak of this box as the graphics card driver is from 2011. Doesn't seem to me that the seller/builder was overly conscientious.
The scene that crashed had no geometry and only 2 surfaces, ground and road, no Fractal terrain as I was pop testing only at that time.
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: bobbystahr on November 06, 2016, 12:58:18 PM
Well......My friend came by to do some hardware and deep memory tests and discovered a bad stick and removed it. Put in a newer video card and all suddenly it wouldn't even boot up...so he took it home and will figure it out and have it back working by Tuesday...hopefully...so no TG work for a while I guess...but soooon. At his house it was running rock solid, said he couldn't make it crap out no matter what....so eventually I'll be back in the saddle.
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: archonforest on November 06, 2016, 01:07:19 PM
Quote from: bobbystahr on November 06, 2016, 12:58:18 PM
Well......My friend came by to do some hardware and deep memory tests and discovered a bad stick and removed it. Put in a newer video card and all suddenly it wouldn't even boot up...so he took it home and will figure it out and have it back working by Tuesday...hopefully...so no TG work for a while I guess...but soooon. At his house it was running rock solid, said he couldn't make it crap out no matter what....so eventually I'll be back in the saddle.

This is just too much problem with the box. It is a bit alarming... ???
Title: Re: Did it again
Post by: bobbystahr on November 06, 2016, 01:43:24 PM
Quote from: archonforest on November 06, 2016, 01:07:19 PM
Quote from: bobbystahr on November 06, 2016, 12:58:18 PM
Well......My friend came by to do some hardware and deep memory tests and discovered a bad stick and removed it. Put in a newer video card and all suddenly it wouldn't even boot up...so he took it home and will figure it out and have it back working by Tuesday...hopefully...so no TG work for a while I guess...but soooon. At his house it was running rock solid, said he couldn't make it crap out no matter what....so eventually I'll be back in the saddle.

This is just too much problem with the box. It is a bit alarming... ???

I'm being as always, patient as being any other way gives you ulcers...he's an accredited professional(works for AMD)so I'm confident by Tuesday I'll have a working computer, but son't expect an e mail before then as the files I was gonna send you are now at his shop.