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Title: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: bobbystahr on October 28, 2016, 09:50:14 PM
Found this in my dirs, Covered Bridge.tgo by masonspappyand was off to the races...C&C welcome
1:16:15 render time. Thanks masonspappy. Dandilions and Buttercups from XFROG and as often is the case one of Dune's free grass bunch, # 4 I think..thanks all.
I could be wrong as I see no Covered Bridge anywhere here.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: masonspappy on October 29, 2016, 01:04:48 AM
Well, I know the stroke left me with some memory holes but I don't remember creating this.    ???
I sent you a PM containing link to my dropbox which contains a gathered TG project containing the covered bridge model.
If it turns out they are the same model then I probably need to go get my head examined again.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: bobbystahr on October 29, 2016, 01:36:37 AM
Quote from: masonspappy on October 29, 2016, 01:04:48 AM
Well, I know the stroke left me with some memory holes but I don't remember creating this.    ???
I sent you a PM containing link to my dropbox which contains a gathered TG project containing the covered bridge model.
If it turns out they are the same model then I probably need to go get my head examined again.  ;D ;D

Nope, not yours, hmm. It's a textured .tgo model so it has to be someone I know but no friggin read me.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: luvsmuzik on October 29, 2016, 11:16:56 AM
This is a great render Bobby. Showing your leafy tree texture very will forefront. Good composition. ;D

The covered bridge object has some great effects! Light pouring into side openings at left and hitting wooden floor. My only criticism is a (showing as) white (fascia?) roof trim board in the frontal opening at top. I can also live with the white ceiling if it is a light source, but maybe darken that if not.
Great lighting and atmo! Wonderful sound of boards rumbling and blare of horn....ah the good ol' days!
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: ajcgi on October 31, 2016, 08:53:57 AM
Really beautiful sir.
Though... if you were to put a real camera in that position, those nearest leaves would be fuzzy even at a tight aperture like f22 as you might be, shooting into the sun like that. A little bit of DOF blur would totally sell this. ;)
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: bobbystahr on October 31, 2016, 12:01:25 PM
Quote from: ajcgi on October 31, 2016, 08:53:57 AM
Really beautiful sir.
Though... if you were to put a real camera in that position, those nearest leaves would be fuzzy even at a tight aperture like f22 as you might be, shooting into the sun like that. A little bit of DOF blur would totally sell this. ;)

Thanks mate....Yeah I get that but I'm still working on my old low power box till my boat anchor wakes up and discovers it's a workstation, heh heh heh. These are mostly sketches till the boat anchor, named Godot for now, wakes up.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: ajcgi on November 01, 2016, 01:21:20 PM
Ah! Ok cool. Let's hope we see the awakening soon. :D
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: bobbystahr on November 01, 2016, 02:28:28 PM
Quote from: ajcgi on November 01, 2016, 01:21:20 PM
Ah! Ok cool. Let's hope we see the awakening soon. :D

Talked with him and he's in Texas, a sales event or something; he is an AMD low level exec. and he wants me to run it and generate crash logs so he can se what's happening....oddly am doing a fairly intense render test now and it's performng swimmingly at the moment.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: N-drju on November 02, 2016, 04:03:28 AM
Fresh, chilly morning. Ahh, so relaxing. Good job Bobby.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: bobbystahr on November 02, 2016, 09:58:41 AM
Well quite a few "torture tests" later the machine formerly known as godot has not done a BSOD and the renders are at least 3 times as fast and has adopted the name of zippy from my old fast machine; well fast when U got it any way. I'm happier than I've been for a while and when Donny comes back from his sales meeting in Houston he's coming by to retest my RAM and bring me a video card more recent than the one he put in this box who's driver was dated 4/19 2011. Hardly, I would think, up to the demands of today's TG4
Off to try some more stuff...........
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: masonspappy on November 02, 2016, 12:48:27 PM
 Sounding very hopeful Bobby. Fingers crossed...
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: bobbystahr on November 02, 2016, 02:04:56 PM
Quote from: masonspappy on November 02, 2016, 12:48:27 PM
Sounding very hopeful Bobby. Fingers crossed...

working on getting depth of field in the next render of your lovely covered bridge as I type(test running)

locked up while cancelling a render and crashed TG4....back to the rawing board. At least the computer didn't crash.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: DocCharly65 on November 03, 2016, 04:39:30 AM
3 time faster sound really good Bobby!
Fingers crossed here, too.

And nice render!  :)
Perhaps with the DoF you get rid of the a bit unnatural look of the leaves in the foreground.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: bobbystahr on November 03, 2016, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: DocCharly65 on November 03, 2016, 04:39:30 AM
3 time faster sound really good Bobby!
Fingers crossed here, too.

And nice render!  :)
Perhaps with the DoF you get rid of the a bit unnatural look of the leaves in the foreground.

Couldn't get DoF working after 3 hours of testing...seem to have a brain block so I changed the view to eliminate those leaves peeking in. Maybe come back to this when I grok DoF...I did use it successfully before but am not getting there at this time...sigh. Will post the render when done as a Final.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: Dune on November 03, 2016, 11:09:31 AM
There's 2 buttons to check! One in render and one in camera.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: ajcgi on November 03, 2016, 11:23:33 AM
The old 2 buttons thing... I just had that in Arnold in Maya. Overriding the matte on a standin's shape here can only be activated by also overriding the override matte checkbox. A safety switch on a safety switch. Took me ages to remember. :D
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: bobbystahr on November 03, 2016, 11:26:26 AM
Quote from: Dune on November 03, 2016, 11:09:31 AM
There's 2 buttons to check! One in render and one in camera.

I have both clicked and the distance and aperture set and still nada Ulco. I'm going to just zoom in past those leaves and go without the DoF as I was originally. I'll figger DoF out in a 'dedicated to it' render later.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: archonforest on November 03, 2016, 12:09:47 PM
the aperture number should be way bigger than one. Like put 20. Just did a test with your settings and the foreground is nicely blurred.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: bobbystahr on November 03, 2016, 12:26:04 PM
Quote from: archonforest on November 03, 2016, 12:09:47 PM
the aperture number should be way bigger than one. Like put 20. Just did a test with your settings and the foreground is nicely blurred.

What number are you putting in the focal length? I have 950m(being the distance from the camera's axis and the start of the bridge building) and 20 aperture and still the foreground is sharply focused. In fact no matter what settings I use I can't even get the blur I got originally...dunno what's up with that.Trying another test and will post results.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: archonforest on November 03, 2016, 12:35:45 PM
Got it. See the screenshot below.  :)


Also if your cam is showing a big emty space and no object close to the lens then the dof will be kinda invisible. So make sure you got something close to the cam.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: archonforest on November 03, 2016, 12:41:56 PM
Here is the render based on the above settings.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: bobbystahr on November 03, 2016, 01:28:53 PM
Quote from: archonforest on November 03, 2016, 12:41:56 PM
Here is the render based on the above settings.

I'll check on the object thing but a tree ought to fairly close to the camera to get that large a leaf in the view...but worth checking as I've had zero luck so far. Thanks man....

yup, the camera is amongst the branches.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: luvsmuzik on November 03, 2016, 03:55:58 PM
I got this far with an elliptical blur mask. I will delete this post after you see it.

I personally liked it with the branch detail, but what do I know? LOL
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: archonforest on November 03, 2016, 04:22:05 PM
Quote from: luvsmuzik on November 03, 2016, 03:55:58 PM
I got this far with an elliptical blur mask. I will delete this post after you see it.

I personally liked it with the branch detail, but what do I know? LOL

Looks GREAT!
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: bobbystahr on November 03, 2016, 07:18:28 PM
Quote from: luvsmuzik on November 03, 2016, 03:55:58 PM
I got this far with an elliptical blur mask. I will delete this post after you see it.

I personally liked it with the branch detail, but what do I know? LOL

cool, you can leave it if you like...I like it with the detail myself as well but was triggered to try DoF...I'm going without it with the new and much nice bridge I'm using now.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge_got DoF
Post by: bobbystahr on November 03, 2016, 10:10:57 PM
Had to make a new scene as I think DoF likes close proximity to the ground as I used all the contra-indicated things like GISD and Fog....
and all in 38 min...would have been an over nighter on this dell.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: Oshyan on November 03, 2016, 11:19:37 PM
Ahh, you got the DoF working! Excellent.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: bobbystahr on November 04, 2016, 12:27:09 AM
Quote from: Oshyan on November 03, 2016, 11:19:37 PM
Ahh, you got the DoF working! Excellent.

- Oshyan

It seems to work best near the "ground" where ever that is...I dropped the camera way down for this but that's not an appropriate camera position for the other image so I moved the camera a tad to exclude the foreground leaves and am gonna do a hi res of that soon. Still playing with camera positions on this castle scene.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: archonforest on November 04, 2016, 03:59:39 AM
Hey you managed! Cool! :)
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: bobbystahr on November 04, 2016, 12:20:47 PM
Quote from: archonforest on November 04, 2016, 03:59:39 AM
Hey you managed! Cool! :)

yeah, but I hadda create a new scene to figure it out. Still no idea how to accomplish the original 'frame blur' idea.
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: archonforest on November 04, 2016, 12:55:35 PM
I would take a look of it if you can send it to me. Drop box or somethin'
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: bobbystahr on November 04, 2016, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: archonforest on November 04, 2016, 12:55:35 PM
I would take a look of it if you can send it to me. Drop box or somethin'

Lost my Drop Box in a Trojan recovery but I'll gather it and try sendspace...I believe your e mail addy is in my contacts?
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: luvsmuzik on November 04, 2016, 03:56:55 PM
Lovely render!
Title: Re: Today's Doodle, Covered Bridge
Post by: archonforest on November 06, 2016, 02:47:09 AM
Quote from: bobbystahr on November 04, 2016, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: archonforest on November 04, 2016, 12:55:35 PM
I would take a look of it if you can send it to me. Drop box or somethin'

Lost my Drop Box in a Trojan recovery but I'll gather it and try sendspace...I believe your e mail addy is in my contacts?
Yes u have it for sure.