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Title: Train car testing
Post by: archonforest on March 21, 2017, 10:58:32 AM
Got some train cars and this is the first test render with them. Main reason of the DOF is to hide the too clean cars.  ;D
Figuring out a way to dirt them up. Reading old posts but not so much luck so far...
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: luvsmuzik on March 21, 2017, 11:23:49 AM
This is the set with named colors, not image for texture right?
If so, I hook powerfractals into color function on the object shader tab and then look at the density of it using the scale, leadin, and number of octaves. I often put contrast on high and offset a small negative, depending....I usually blend the default obj. color with two shades darker or even dark gray. If your fractal preview is not two tone....tweak some more.  :) You can also hook a transform input before the PF and scale it from there.
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: bobbystahr on March 21, 2017, 11:40:14 AM
Try this thread
http://www.planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,20209.msg231223.html#msg231223
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: archonforest on March 21, 2017, 11:45:19 AM
Tku luvsmuzik. I am playing with PF but the dirt is not very real for close renders. For a distance one I think it is okay.

Tku bobby. I looked that one already but it is way above my head... :D
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: j meyer on March 21, 2017, 01:05:42 PM
QuoteI looked that one already but it is way above my head... :D

Why don't you ask questions then? And we are going into it. That's what that
thread was made for.

You guys should really learn to ask questions, honestly. You know who you are. ;)
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: luvsmuzik on March 21, 2017, 02:01:15 PM
http://www.planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,22713.msg229260.html#msg229260

Those are some of my tests using Hanne's material clips. Tell me what you want.

Sometimes you can chose one of those examples, then unhook the reflective it is too shiny. Through a transform input, set to world position, scale it, sometimes bigger, sometimes smaller. equal on each axis would be my first try.
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: archonforest on March 21, 2017, 02:13:15 PM
Quote from: j meyer on March 21, 2017, 01:05:42 PM
QuoteI looked that one already but it is way above my head... :D

Why don't you ask questions then? And we are going into it. That's what that
thread was made for.

You guys should really learn to ask questions, honestly. You know who you are. ;)

Tku Jochen. Usually I am not asking questions in a thread like that as it seem like and sounds like couple of professors are talking. Meaning I do not understand a word out of it as it is so technical. But since u are inviting....I will type my question there so we continue the same thread...

Tku luvsmuzik. Lets go for the thread that Jochen started  :)
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: luvsmuzik on March 21, 2017, 02:24:24 PM
Quote from: archonforest on March 21, 2017, 02:13:15 PM
Quote from: j meyer on March 21, 2017, 01:05:42 PM
QuoteI looked that one already but it is way above my head... :D

Why don't you ask questions then? And we are going into it. That's what that
thread was made for.

You guys should really learn to ask questions, honestly. You know who you are. ;)

Tku Jochen. Usually I am not asking questions in a thread like that as it seem like and sounds like couple of professors are talking. Meaning I do not understand a word out of it as it is so technical. But since u are inviting....I will type my question there so we continue the same thread...

Tku luvsmuzik. Lets go for the thread that Jochen started  :)

Same difference :) I didn't know how technically adaptive you were. If you examine the materials example files you will see how there are some two, even three methods combined with merge to get different effect. :)
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: inkydigit on March 21, 2017, 06:39:25 PM
I like the view here...


ps: i have added dirt to my sign here for an example... it is a simple power fractal added after the default shader inside the object's part shader...
:)
http://www.planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,22981.0.html
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: Dune on March 22, 2017, 02:23:08 AM
Yeah, ask questions and they will be anwered excaustively  ;)
Several ways to add dirt. PF straight into color input of default shader gives UV based variance, taken through transform shader set to final/world, it will be world based. You can add a surface shader after the default as well, with children and mask (same priciple apllies here), but now the dirt/color is over the default shader so can cover all, unless coverage is decreased. Displacement can be added here too. Another way is to merge the default and surface shader into the parts shader, and control by world pf. Then they exclude eachother based on that mask. I just used that to make a ruin with partly plastered stone walls (stone texture default mixed with plaster default by very hard merge control, both with their own displacement/bump).
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: archonforest on March 23, 2017, 05:01:42 AM
Thks inky and Dune for the data :)
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: DocCharly65 on March 23, 2017, 06:00:25 AM
Now I am curious: will there come a new version? Would be cool!
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: archonforest on March 23, 2017, 06:21:08 AM
Yes I will have. I will keep also this one as I like it as is except will add more trees and stuff but I have 2 more ideas.... :)
Title: Re: Train car testing-update
Post by: archonforest on March 23, 2017, 04:50:20 PM
An update... :)

More version on the way
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: inkydigit on March 23, 2017, 05:46:15 PM
Great update, almost surreal!
A story is being told maybe?
:)
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: archonforest on March 24, 2017, 06:40:39 AM
Quote from: inkydigit on March 23, 2017, 05:46:15 PM
Great update, almost surreal!
A story is being told maybe?
:)

Tku inky. Surreal? Interesting. Would u mind to explain why u think that?
The story here is sad. Jack is waiting for her but....
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: DocCharly65 on March 24, 2017, 09:30:12 AM
Nice update
What's next?  :)

(is that the grass from chris? looks good!)
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: archonforest on March 24, 2017, 09:33:02 AM
Quote from: DocCharly65 on March 24, 2017, 09:30:12 AM
Nice update
What's next?  :)

(is that the grass from chris? looks good!)

Thx doc. The grass is from Paq mixed with dunes base grass.
I am still updating this shot with some more little things and in the same time working out with the next shot. Hope I can make it what in mind hehehe...
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: bobbystahr on March 24, 2017, 12:45:33 PM
Uh, isn't that an electric diesel engine, I question the smoke....
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: archonforest on March 24, 2017, 02:00:00 PM
Quote from: bobbystahr on March 24, 2017, 12:45:33 PM
Uh, isn't that an electric diesel engine, I question the smoke....

No this is a diesel-mechanic one. Otherwise the diesel-electric trains are still having smoke since a huge diesel rotates smaller electrical ones to create electricity to move the train. I was a diesel train mechanic so the smoke here is okay. Perhaps in the US they have a different set-up.

And by the way this is a Russian engine so it MUST smoke hahahaha.....
Title: Re: Train car testing
Post by: bobbystahr on March 24, 2017, 06:31:07 PM
Quote from: archonforest on March 24, 2017, 02:00:00 PM
Quote from: bobbystahr on March 24, 2017, 12:45:33 PM
Uh, isn't that an electric diesel engine, I question the smoke....

And by the way this is a Russian engine so it MUST smoke hahahaha.....


hee hee hee