Hi all, we are nearing completion on a new benchmark scene (based on one kindly donated by someone you all know and love :D). To finalize it we need a couple volunteers with mid-range modern CPUs to test a draft of the benchmark and make sure it has a reasonable render time on their hardware. We're roughly aiming for 10-15 mins on a Ryzen 2700x, so if you have a Ryzen CPU around that level, or an equivalent Intel CPU get in touch! Anyone interested in testing please email support AT planetside.co.uk
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- Oshyan
Haha, I just changed a Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX, the old benchmark scene 2 minutes and 50 seconds. Unfortunately, my cpu does not meet your testing requirements.
I`d be interested in testing but I have no idea what an equivalent Intel CPU to that Ryzen would be.
See my specs in the footnote? Let me know.
CHeers, Klaus
You're a little over-spec Klaus. :D It'll be available to the public soon though and you can register your score as before. :)
- Oshyan
I have a dual X5670 Xeon. Is that okay or too old?
I'm guessing my Ryzen is a little below what you are looking for?
Got a 24thread dual E5-2620 setup at work here... 2.4Ghz, 64GB of RAM. Any use?
At home it's a 5th or 6th gen i7 I think.
Firstly well done to both of you on getting this together. Much needed.
Happy to help but a little busy at the moment. I could have a blast at the weekend.
My rigs are not modern (pre Ryzen!) but both 12 core so still useful ...
Cheers
Actually the dual CPU Xeon's are still going to be a bit too much horsepower. They're worth testing on, absolutely, but our concern here is really about hitting an approximate render time target for a "middle of the road" enthusiast hardware, which is about Ryzen 2700x level. An 1800x would be a decent stand-in though, i.e. close enough. So jaf, you'd actually be our best bet at present. Get in touch if you want to give it a run. It may take some back-and-forth, i.e. multiple tests.
- Oshyan
Nice update guys
I have a i7 5820K and an i7 2600k. Any good?
I have a Core i7 4790k. If you need some tests on this CPU, just send me a message.
Hah, surprised no one has one of the newer Ryzen CPUs actually. None of those Intels are a close enough match performance-wise I don't think. But I think we can figure it out. I'll contact people directly for any needed testing, and the final version will be out within a week or two.
- Oshyan
I think bobbystahr is running a ryzen ?
I have an old i7-3930K here :'(
No, Bobby had an Athlon I do believe, and that machine is down unfortunately.
- Oshyan
Quote from: Oshyan on February 26, 2019, 09:50:40 PM
No, Bobby had an Athlon I do believe, and that machine is down unfortunately.
- Oshyan
Still, and yeah no Ryzen, just a humble AMD FX-8370E 8 CORE 3.30GHz
I have a 1950x, but honestly been disappointed with it. It freezes or crashes during heavy rendering with TG or VRay. Probably going to sell it :(
Quote from: surrealdan on February 28, 2019, 09:10:55 AM
I have a 1950x, but honestly been disappointed with it. It freezes or crashes during heavy rendering with TG or VRay. Probably going to sell it :(
Amd Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core / 32 Threads 3.4 GHz..this one? ...if so I must say that's disappointing as that was my target upgrade for when my ship comes in.
Quote from: surrealdan on February 28, 2019, 09:10:55 AM
I have a 1950x, but honestly been disappointed with it. It freezes or crashes during heavy rendering with TG or VRay. Probably going to sell it :(
I have been rendering everyday on my 1950X at work with no issues. You might want to pop in a different Ryzen CPU and see if you experience the same freezing and crashing to rule out other possible culprits like bad RAM, or Motherboard etc.
Quote from: surrealdan on February 28, 2019, 09:10:55 AM
I have a 1950x, but honestly been disappointed with it. It freezes or crashes during heavy rendering with TG or VRay. Probably going to sell it :(
If it is crashing under load that could indicate a power supply related issue, such as not having auxiliary power cables connected up to the motherboard.
yeah that sounds like it could be it, still taking the machine to the shop to make sure.
Quote from: surrealdan on March 01, 2019, 10:43:13 AM
yeah that sounds like it could be it, still taking the machine to the shop to make sure.
Also if you do have a scene that crashes on render consistently, and it can be packaged up and shared I could test it on my 1950X to see if it crashes for me.
-Derek
A freezing/crashing issue with a CPU is an anomaly, not normal behavior for that line of CPU. Don't decide against Threadripper because some can be unstable Bobby, just as your Dell might crash sometimes, but that doesn't mean not to buy a Dell. ;)
And Dan, definitely get it looked at by someone with knowledge about *workstation level* systems, CPUs, cooling, and power. I guess perhaps the shop you bought it at, which it sounds like what you're doing, but honestly if they do not specialize in high-end machines you might consider somewhere else. Those CPUs are available for anyone to purchase and build a system with, but that doesn't mean that any random PC building shop will know how to best configure, power, and cool it.
- Oshyan
Great points Oshyan!
I also wanted to add, now that Oshyan jogged my memory, that when I first got my 1950X it was being cooled by a "Enermax Liqtech TR4" CPU cooler and I don't know if you have the same cooler but many many of those were failing (according to online articles/reviews) and we had two of two fail here at my work which caused CPU down-throttling and some crashing. Once we switched to a Corsair cooler I have had Zero problems.
I like building my own PC's because I find it fun but if you want a solid Threadripper prebuilt I would recommend a company like BOXX. I have never owned a BOXX, but have worked places that use them. They seem like great systems, although they are expensive.
-Derek
I built the machine myself with high rated parts, even have a water cooling system. Everything runs fine overall, just during that heavy cpu rendering it crashes. I'm taking it to professionals to have it checked out, but def an anomaly, but it seem like a common issue with the ryzen chips. We'll see what happens :/
I have no idea where I'd be on this, but the processor on my Toshiba Qosmio laptop is an Intel Core (64 bit / 8 cores) i7-3610 QM CPU@ 2.30 GHz, processing speed @ 2295 MHz. I first bought my machine primarily to handle the demands of Terragen 2 and beyond. If that falls within the "Goldilocks Zone" for the benchmark, I'd be happy to help.
Thanks Rich, but I think we got what we needed. New bench coming soon. :D
- Oshyan
Is AMD Ryzen 7 2700X really mid range? It's the bottom of the barrel in Cb Single (best gauge for CPU rendering). There is literally no Ryzen below it (for mid-range before absolute crap).
It's mid-range for general CPUs, yes. It is low-end for graphics-specific work, but not every Terragen user orients their hardware around computer graphic purposes. The 2700x is basically the top of the line for their consumer CPUs as well, so is essentially a "high end" CPU for those who are not as serious about computer graphics. In any case the only important thing is that there is a reasonable render time for most users, and that there is a big enough spread of render times that reasonable differences can be discerned. With a 10-15 min render time on a 2700x that should be the case.
- Oshyan
Quote from: surrealdan on February 28, 2019, 09:10:55 AM
I have a 1950x, but honestly been disappointed with it. It freezes or crashes during heavy rendering with TG or VRay. Probably going to sell it :(
I also have a 1950x. Most stable PC I ever owned. It's crushing through ever scene I throw at it in Terragen, so somethings not right with yours or some of the other components.
- Terje
I got a Ryzen 5 2600X. Can you do the benchmark on the free version of TG 4?
Edit: Nevermind. Looks like you got what you needed.
Yes, soon to be released for all to try though. And it is designed to work on the Free version just as well as the licensed one.
- Oshyan
Quote from: Upon Infinity on March 28, 2019, 03:08:29 AM
I got a Ryzen 5 2600X. Can you do the benchmark on the free version of TG 4?
Edit: Nevermind. Looks like you got what you needed.
envious, been trying to save for that upgrade for months now but the
GD house keeps asking for more money to be spent on it...sigh.