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Title: In the Woods
Post by: old_blaggard on November 16, 2007, 02:58:06 AM
Hmm... we're halfway through November and it already looks like I'm pining for summer ;).

http://www.ashundar.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-4755

Comments and criticisms are, as always, appreciated.
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: ozijon on November 16, 2007, 03:12:23 AM
very nice just dark i think
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: dhavalmistry on November 16, 2007, 08:30:54 AM
I think the lighting is perfect....I also like the variation in the shrubs and trees.......good one....

is the grass TG2 native grass??
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: Tangled-Universe on November 16, 2007, 10:04:14 AM
This looks really nice. I like all the species of flowers, nice variations :)
I like the tree models as well and the overall render-quality is very good (keeping the (heavy?) scene in mind).
Great work o_b!

Martin
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: rcallicotte on November 16, 2007, 11:16:14 AM
Like your foliage.  Is it all xFrog or a combination?  Which part is xFrog and which package is it from, if you did you use xFrog?
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: efflux on November 16, 2007, 11:52:52 AM
The variety is good. Repetition of the same vegetation kills many renders for me but not in this one. Cool work.
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: child@play on November 16, 2007, 12:17:53 PM
great image, very nice usage of models. i like it very much
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: old_blaggard on November 16, 2007, 12:39:21 PM
Thanks guys :).
Calico - the models are from the Xfrog tropics set, except for the blue flowers which are from Ogre.
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: bobbystahr on November 16, 2007, 03:44:30 PM
Quote from: old_blaggard on November 16, 2007, 02:58:06 AM
Hmm... we're halfway through November and it already looks like I'm pining for summer ;).

You an me both OB...we had a few sprinklings of snow up here in the soon to be frozen north...Stellar image...makes me long for the day I can afford the full app and more than 3 populations....not really too dark but I might have played a bit more with eithe ambient occlusion or the other one in that tab so as to peer into the shadows a tad....great compo tho...thanx for posting this inspirational[to me at least] piece.. ...
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: rcallicotte on November 16, 2007, 05:41:23 PM
Did you modify the leaves or bark or anything?

Quote from: old_blaggard on November 16, 2007, 12:39:21 PM
Thanks guys :).
Calico - the models are from the Xfrog tropics set, except for the blue flowers which are from Ogre.
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: old_blaggard on November 16, 2007, 07:22:25 PM
I applied a bit of translucency to all of the leaves, but other than that, everything is unchanged.
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: Cyber-Angel on November 16, 2007, 10:48:02 PM
I like your image, I would leave the lighting as it is as woodlands of that type tend to have that kind of illumination and brightness from ones I have been to in the past if recollection serves. Fine image, great job.

Regards to you.

Cyber-Angel   
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: rcallicotte on November 16, 2007, 11:55:42 PM
Thanks for the intel, sir.   ;D

Quote from: old_blaggard on November 16, 2007, 07:22:25 PM
I applied a bit of translucency to all of the leaves, but other than that, everything is unchanged.
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: Oshyan on November 18, 2007, 01:01:42 AM
Seems like GI is off, no? If so I think it would improve the scene a lot to have it on. But the scene, especially the vegetation, is great. Just needs a bit better lighting to really make it shine.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: old_blaggard on November 18, 2007, 01:08:01 AM
GI was on, but I'll try upping the quality and playing with some other settings.
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: Oshyan on November 18, 2007, 01:40:47 AM
Surprising. Had you tweaked any of the GI settings?

- Oshyan
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: old_blaggard on November 18, 2007, 01:54:29 AM
Yeah - I'd set surface strength to 1.5.  At 1 the shadows were way too dark.
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: Oshyan on November 18, 2007, 04:08:55 PM
Very interesting. Is contrast increased or gamma changed at all?

- Oshyan
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: old_blaggard on November 18, 2007, 06:13:55 PM
Nope ;).  I'm rendering something with increased translucency on the leaves, decreased GI, and a slightly different sun position that's looking promising.  I'll let you know how it goes :).
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: old_blaggard on November 22, 2007, 03:18:49 PM
Another one.  It may look a bit dark on some monitors, but I've been playing around, and I feel like I need that contrast to add depth to the image.  Either way, I'm much happier with the lighting here.  What do you think?

http://www.ashundar.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-4774
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: dhavalmistry on November 22, 2007, 05:05:10 PM
very very nice.....
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: Tangled-Universe on November 22, 2007, 05:58:58 PM
I think it is a really great improvement. Good example of the importance of lighting to make a scene look good or best.
I think it looks excellent now, very nice contrasts. It became more 'alive' this way, so to say :)
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: bobbystahr on November 22, 2007, 06:25:35 PM
[quote   What do you think?http://www.ashundar.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-4774[/quote]

Bloody perfect...photo like....well done, and indeed illustrates once again the importance of light, so many details revealed it almost become a whole new image..... KUDOS .. ...
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: old_blaggard on November 23, 2007, 01:37:24 PM
Thanks guys :).  Glad you like it.
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: jo on November 27, 2007, 08:14:58 AM
Hi o_b,

That looks much more summery :-). One of the most vegetative images I've seen, I think.

Regards,

Jo
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: bobbystahr on November 27, 2007, 11:11:53 AM
Quote from: jo on November 27, 2007, 08:14:58 AM
One of the most vegetative images I've seen, I think.
Regards,
Jo
Indeed it is and goes to show what a full version can do with more than 3 populations...can y tell I'm green with envy, heh heh heh.. ...
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: Njen on November 27, 2007, 11:25:14 AM
Wow, this image is awesome, and a great sign of things to come...

As a suggestion, I would put a displacement map on the leaves. This will add extra realism to the image because the curved leaves can pick up specular hits from the light, and also they will not look like flat pieces of geometry when perpendicular to camera. For a simple displacement example, just try a radial map, but I am sure you will have a good idea for a more realistic displacement map.

Tests I have been doing in this area recently have come out extremely well. Not anything to show yet, but it really does help.

Congrats on the lovely image!
Title: Re: In the Woods
Post by: old_blaggard on November 27, 2007, 11:33:02 AM
Again, thanks for the comments and suggestions :).  I'm putting this aside for now, njen, but I'll definitely keep displacement maps in mind for other vegetation renders I'll do in the future.