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Title: God of the gods
Post by: MF_Erwan on December 03, 2007, 08:56:00 AM
That is to say...Jupiter.
(http://elgastro22.free.fr/terragen_2/images/Jupiter.jpg)

I used the map of Bjorn Jonsson, which is 2880*1440 pixels: http://www.mmedia.is/~bjj/planetary_maps.html (http://www.mmedia.is/~bjj/planetary_maps.html)

Rendering time: one hour. Since it is a very simple scene...

I have a question about the atmosphere layout: what is the difference between "Bluesky horizon colour" and "Bluesky density colour"?

Erwan Le Gac
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: crosseout on December 03, 2007, 09:06:29 AM
hello, I can't answer your question since I know about a much as nothing technical about terragen, but I know taht your scene is pretty nice. Maybe some other heading/ elevation of the sun and/or a more glowing atmosphere would make it a bit more interesting thoug (;
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: old_blaggard on December 03, 2007, 09:17:12 AM
Great use of image maps ;).  Someone else will have to answer your bluesky question for you, though.  I personally would like to see a little more of an atmosphere in order to get a slight blur at the edge of the planet but I'm not sure what that would do to realism.
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: dhavalmistry on December 03, 2007, 09:48:58 AM
nice Jupiter image...add some moons if you can...
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: rcallicotte on December 03, 2007, 10:36:24 AM
Nice image, but it looks flat...needs something to bring out the 3D side.  Thanks for the link.

Horizon color is the horizon color as opposed to the sky color.

Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: Harvey Birdman on December 03, 2007, 11:03:02 AM
Nice image, but I think your texture has seen one too many jpeg compressions - the colors are much less vivid than they should be. Take a look at the atrtached image - it's brighter than the one you've used, but it still isn't anywhere near as bright as it should be (it's been compressed as well, but probably not as many times).

Try taking a look at the stuff at http://maps.jpl.nasa.gov (http://maps.jpl.nasa.gov).
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: MF_Erwan on December 03, 2007, 11:29:27 AM
Quote from: Harvey Birdman on December 03, 2007, 11:03:02 AMthe colors are much less vivid than they should be. Take a look at the atrtached image - it's brighter than the one you've used, but it still isn't anywhere near as bright as it should be (it's been compressed as well, but probably not as many times).

Try taking a look at the stuff at http://maps.jpl.nasa.gov (http://maps.jpl.nasa.gov).

Thanks, but I already knew this site! It is in my list: http://elgastro22.free.fr/liens.html (http://elgastro22.free.fr/liens.html) (3D/TEXTURES ET DONNEES ALTIMETRIQUES)
The texture of Bjorn Jonsonn has been made from the images that the Cassini probe took during its flyby, while the textures in your attached image has been made from the Voyager images!
About the brightness, I've decreased the sunlight strength to 1, since the 3.5 default value was too high and saturated the image.
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: rcallicotte on December 03, 2007, 11:47:51 AM
@elegac - It looks flat.  Somehow your projection isn't accurate or is it that the one Harvey is showing looks flat?
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: Harvey Birdman on December 03, 2007, 12:04:24 PM
Quote from: elegac on December 03, 2007, 11:29:27 AM
Thanks, but I already knew this site! It is in my list: http://elgastro22.free.fr/liens.html (http://elgastro22.free.fr/liens.html) (3D/TEXTURES ET DONNEES ALTIMETRIQUES)
The texture of Bjorn Jonsonn has been made from the images that the Cassini probe took during its flyby, while the textures in your attached image has been made from the Voyager images!
About the brightness, I've decreased the sunlight strength to 1, since the 3.5 default value was too high and saturated the image.

Ah. Very good!   :)

Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: green_meklar on December 03, 2007, 12:14:34 PM
QuoteNice image, but it looks flat...needs something to bring out the 3D side.
Exactly what I was thinking. I think the problem is that on a real planet, you see the image projection get stretched as it approaches the horizon, as if you're looking at a flat projection through a fisheye lens, but your planet doesn't look like that. I think what you (elegac, that is, not calico) should do is try to get the mapping like that on your planet. It will look much more realistic that way.

Oh, et ta langue maternelle, est-ce que c'est le français? Parce que, en anglais, 'the map of Bjorn Jonsson' indique que c'est une carte qui vraiment représente la surface de Bjorn Jonsson. Si on veut parler d'une carte que Bjorn Jonsson a créée, ou une carte que Bjorn Jonsson possède, on dit 'Bjorn Jonsson's map'.
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: MF_Erwan on December 03, 2007, 03:27:34 PM
QuoteNice image, but it looks flat...needs something to bring out the 3D side.
Then I think THIS image is better: I changed the projection type to "spherical", instead of the default "through camera"!
(http://elgastro22.free.fr/terragen_2/images/Jupiter_2.jpg)

Next steps:
-increase the thickness of the atmosphere
-add Io (with a realistic position and size)

Quote from: green_meklar on December 03, 2007, 12:14:34 PM
Oh, et ta langue maternelle, est-ce que c'est le français? Parce que, en anglais, 'the map of Bjorn Jonsson' indique que c'est une carte qui vraiment représente la surface de Bjorn Jonsson. Si on veut parler d'une carte que Bjorn Jonsson a créée, ou une carte que Bjorn Jonsson possède, on dit 'Bjorn Jonsson's map'.

Oups...autant pour moi...tu est français aussi? Est-ce que tu va sur le forum "Planète Terragen"?

Erwan Le Gac
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: rcallicotte on December 03, 2007, 03:45:41 PM
This is somewhat better, I agree.  Spherical works best for these, from what I've seen.

This would look fantastic from IO's shoreline. 

Don't forget to coordinate the coordinates of your spherical maps with the location of your planets / moons.  These two things must always match up.  Just a reminder...
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: old_blaggard on December 03, 2007, 04:27:58 PM
Using spherical projection was a good idea ;).  Nicely done!
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: Will on December 03, 2007, 04:30:45 PM
And you all thought my little blurb beneath my posts was a lie.
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: Seth on December 03, 2007, 05:24:14 PM
invasion de français en ce moment ;)
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: old_blaggard on December 03, 2007, 05:35:53 PM
Et, oui... le français, c'est une langue très envahissante :P.
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: Will on December 03, 2007, 05:42:51 PM
Iway eakspay igpay atinlay osay optay atthay oolsfay  :P
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: Harvey Birdman on December 03, 2007, 05:45:30 PM
Quote from: Will on December 03, 2007, 05:42:51 PM
Iway eakspay igpay atinlay osay optay atthay oolsfay  :P

:D   :D
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: old_blaggard on December 03, 2007, 05:49:08 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: MF_Erwan on December 03, 2007, 05:54:32 PM
Si hay alguien que habla español, puedo ayudar a traducir... ;D
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: Will on December 03, 2007, 05:59:02 PM
Is est questus off thema.  ;)
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: Seth on December 03, 2007, 06:19:44 PM
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: green_meklar on December 04, 2007, 11:46:49 AM
QuoteThen I think THIS image is better: I changed the projection type to "spherical", instead of the default "through camera"!
Much better!
QuoteOups...autant pour moi...tu est français aussi?
Je suis un canadien, et pendant que ma langue maternelle est l'anglais, comme beaucoup des canadiens, j'ai appris un peu de français aussi. For the matter of that, your english is probably better than my french anyway.
QuoteEst-ce que tu va sur le forum "Planète Terragen"?
Non...
QuoteSi hay alguien que habla español, puedo ayudar a traducir...
Trois langues differentes? Bien, tu gagnes.  :-\
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: MF_Erwan on December 04, 2007, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: green_meklar on December 04, 2007, 11:46:49 AM
Trois langues differentes? Bien, tu gagnes.  :-\

Well, you know, spanish is like french: a latin language. Then for me it is a very simple one! Same thing for italian: even if I never studied it at school, I can understand it thanks to my knowledge of spanish.
On the opposite, english is a completely different language. For french people, english takes far more time to learn than spanish or italian.

PS: Und ich ein bisschen Deutsch auch!
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: Lucio on December 04, 2007, 06:52:50 PM
Gli italiani sono una minoranza qui...:)
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: Will on December 04, 2007, 06:55:13 PM
Seth this is another fine mess you've gotten us into.
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: Seth on December 05, 2007, 01:13:03 AM
yeah... ;D
Title: Re: God of the gods
Post by: rcallicotte on December 05, 2007, 08:51:09 AM
Mais, oui...