What do you guys think of this GPU: Quadro M4000 DDR5 8 GB (under €300, refurbished)
I was glad to find this one, but don't know if it's any good.
There's also a ASUS GTX 1060 TURBO 6GB GDDR5 for sale for same price.
Any ideas?
I have a 1060 in one of my newer labtops. Works reasonably well (in todays tech-standard terms)
with Houdini, Blender, Lightwave, Photoshop, Fusion and Marvelous Designer.
Here is one of many comparisons you can find online where you can find some specs compared.
https://technical.city/de/video/GeForce-GTX-1060-6-GB-vs-Quadro-M4000
It`s in german, but I remember that you can read and understand that, right?
Doesn`t go too deep, just a quick overview.
If the 1060 is new, I`d go for it. Else as well. Just because it is newer technology. Overall faster.
Don`t expect it to be the end of all your future needs ;) But it should deliver good performance long enough until
prices for the more modern adapters drop to a normal level again - in a year or something like that, I`d presume.
Sure, there are much better cards out there now, but the prices gone overboard. And almost impossible to get. As you noticed.
CHeers, Klaus
Thanks Klaus! Sorry to keep bothering you guys, but I'm still undecided and really want to upgrade. There are also still some GTX 1660 6GB for sale, which might be a better choice, at twice the price, but new. The 1060 is 'secondhand', or refurbished, with only 1 year of guarantee.
I only have to find out if they would fit (needs an 8 pin connector), and I have an asus P8Z68.
The 8 pin connector comes from the powersupply. The mainboard has nothing to do with that.
Check your psu. When it does not have a 8-pin connector for a graphics card you could by a adapter cable for that purpose.
That mainboard has had a lot of iterations...I found a ASUS P8Z68-V PRO (B3) (LGA 1155, Intel Z68, ATX).
That came out in 2011. It has a PCI-Express x 16 slot with PCI Express Version (max.) 3 (3.0).
So the 1060 should run on it.
CHeers, Klaus
Good to have an expert in the house! Thanks again, Klaus. That is indeed my mobo, and it proves the antiquity of my current system :P
The Nexus NX5000 R3 has CPU; 4+4-pins EPS, 8-pins EPS, and dubbel 4+4/8-pins connectors.
hehe, "expert". I just build my own computers. That`s all.
Anyway, glad it if helps getting on.
CHeers, Klaus
man im in need of 2x graphic cards cause im building a new machine with a 5950x, i can not find any graphic card online.. its like the world stopped lol
wtf is going on? a 1080ti selling for 1980€... o.O its insane
Yeah, pretty glad I got my RX 580 and RX 480 when I did. My RX 480 8GB Nitro refurbished is going for 875 USD. I got it for like 320 + tax. What on earth is going on is right. My RX 580, only 4GB Nitro is going for 700+ USD. Like whoooaaa.
The graphics card shortage started in the 1st quarter of 2020. A few thing came / come together:
- the Corona lockdowns kept a lot more people at home.
The Steam game platform saw records broken for all its peak statistics in 2020 - 21% more games purchased, and 50% more hours played.
- new games for consoles crippled the older consoles - people turned to PC gaming again.
- early last year, Chinese manufacturing was temporarily limited due to the coronavirus outbreak;
later, shipping delays hit the electronics market;
and the price of Bitcoin has made "mining" - using GPUs - more lucrative.
- more demand for High End Workstations. Game Engines, VR, 3D - work from home on your own computer.
- shipping containers stuck in harbours somewhere because you were not allowed to ship or unload.
- Nvidia and AMD said last year before christmas, they could not produce enough graphics cards.
The buyers demand was simply too high. They said the situation would at least last until the end of the first quarter of 2021.
Since the situation has not really been changing it will take longer to get back to normal.
I would sit this out if you can. Think of it as a nice gift for upcoming christmas 2021! ::)
CHeers, Klaus
ps: anybody wants to buy a GeForce GTX 1070 Ti ? Only 1500$$$$$ ;D
...just kidding ;)
I got curious and looked around for my GTX 1660 Ti.
There are only options for around 1000 $ (not much different from Amazon i think) and you can't find much actually.
Most cards are stated as "sold out".
A lot of what I find doesn't have a price, and a good portion of what did, was out of stock.
Yeah, it's very frustrating and making one do crazy things. I keep on being undecided; do I empty my wallet or do I struggle (with a grain of salt) on a year more? :(
So I found this earlier, and almost forgot about it. Glad I'm still up cause I probably would have forgotten by normal.
This may literally come in handy: https://www.cnet.com/how-to/create-a-personal-robot-that-alerts-you-when-a-product-is-back-in-stock/
You can create a free account with Uptime Robot, and then use the URL of a product you want, that's out of stock. Then use the phrase "Out of Stock" or whatever it is to search for. And when it doesn't exist set a notification. Better directions on the link.
Quote from: Dune on April 13, 2021, 02:17:00 AMYeah, it's very frustrating and making one do crazy things. I keep on being undecided; do I empty my wallet or do I struggle (with a grain of salt) on a year more? :(
I fully understand your concerns Ulco, but I think you should not put the decision off for too long.
It looks like to me that you have found two really good products and at a reasonable price too. My new system has a 4GB 1060 card (which is enough for TG and Blender object modelling, but not "wowsy" in other terms). If you have found a card which has more memory and is at this (reasonably) good price, go ahead and buy it. I think you'll be positively surprised. (Or I can sell you my spare GTX950M for, say, 400 euro if you like.) :P
Personally, I'd go with ASUS, though this is just me. I know what I can expect from a renowned manufacturer.
I like @KlausK's insight as well. If you plan to put your purchase on hold, you might be in for a looong wait though. And there is no guarantee that the second half of 2021 will see any economic revival.
Thanks Andrzej. Complicating factor is that some folks also advised against a second-hand GPU (which these 2 are). And in (near :P ) future I'd also like to try apps like NDunes, for fast GPU rendered animations, and I'd probably need a better GPU than that Asus for instance.
Aside note: it would be sooooo cool if Matt could write that sort of fast GPU rendering into TG......
Quote from: Dune on April 15, 2021, 02:08:47 AMThanks Andrzej. Complicating factor is that some folks also advised against a second-hand GPU (which these 2 are). And in (near :P ) future I'd also like to try apps like NDunes, for fast GPU rendered animations, and I'd probably need a better GPU than that Asus for instance.
Aside note: it would be sooooo cool if Matt could write that sort of fast GPU rendering into TG......
honestly i dont have high hopes for terragen terrain generation in gpu at all, as far as i remember Matt created a vote poll where people would say which feature they would want GPU for, and almost everyone wanted it for the clouds atmo.
Terragen development is very slow, to make gpu on terrain creation i think they need to rewrite the whole code.
Quote from: Nala1977 on April 15, 2021, 03:36:43 AMand almost everyone wanted it for the clouds atmo.
Lots of people just use TG for HDRI's for other apps. For clean skies that don't need repair from stuff like smog, chemtrails, etc.
The 1060 is newer and faster so I would go for that if you need it right now. 300 euros for the other card?? What a joke! It worth max a 100.
Quote from: Dune on April 15, 2021, 02:08:47 AMThanks Andrzej. Complicating factor is that some folks also advised against a second-hand GPU (which these 2 are). And in (near :P ) future I'd also like to try apps like NDunes, for fast GPU rendered animations, and I'd probably need a better GPU than that Asus for instance.
I think it depends how the GPU was originally used, prior to landing on the sale page.
If for gaming, that's acceptable. If for rendering or cryptocurrency mining, it's probably a bit worn off. But I guess you have no veritable way to investigate it.
Yeah, some people advice against (probably for that reason; you never know if it's been abused), others say they're good anyway. Pffff.
Anyway; another choice I'm considering, as waiting for 2022/23 is no option.
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 OC 6G (€589)
Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 OC 6G (€709)
For €100 more I'd probably prefer the latter, as I believe it also does RayTracing (whether or not that's any use in TG (or NDunes)). That would probably keep me rolling for another 5-10 years, I suppose.
Quote from: Dune on April 19, 2021, 03:35:13 AMThat would probably keep me rolling for another 5-10 years, I suppose.
I'm pretty certain about that!
Both good cards. If you remember, I also aimed at GTX 1660, but the stock was depleted. This was my builder's initial suggestion as well.
My last 2 cards were 2nd hand and both are perfect. If you find a nice person who simply used it for gaming without too much overclock then it can be okay. Just before the pandemic I bought a 2nd hand gtx 1080 and it was in perfect condition. The owner cleaned it regularly...etc.
Otherwise the 2060 is a pretty solid performing card. The price.....ehhh... :-X
Well, I almost decided to get the 2060 (for that awful price indeed), but it raises another problem. It only has hdmi and usb-3 ports, and I have an Aten kvm switch to use 2 machines on one monitor, but that's only vga, and 2x usb for Wacom and keyboard. It's getting complicated, more research to do before emptying my wallet....
I got a HDMi switchbox with USB switch gor keyboard mouth for only lime 30 bucks on Amazon. I don't think they are too ridiculously expensive anymore. Could get a HDMI yo VGA for other PC
Thanks. I've just looked into those, and it seems like there's a bit of quality issues sometimes. Some people complain of having their signal vanish after a few days, but I'll do some more research.
Just get an hdmi to vga adapter. It is very cheap.
Yes, I saw that. Thanks.