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Title: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: sonshine777 on January 23, 2008, 06:55:26 PM
Here is a work in progress that I have been whittling away at for awhile. When St Helens erupted in 1980 it blew a couple million trees into the north end of Spirit Lake, creating a huge log mat much larger and uglier than what is portrayed here. I still have a few logs to add and some more shrub like plants.
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: DaveC on January 23, 2008, 07:40:08 PM
A really interesting view of Mt. St Helens.  Well done on the object placement I can't seem to figure out how to get objects placed where you want them.  Any tips you have on that would be great.
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: rcallicotte on January 23, 2008, 07:53:50 PM
Very good.  Is that a cloud or smoke coming from the volcano's mouth?
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: old_blaggard on January 23, 2008, 09:01:31 PM
I like the idea and composition, and the detail on the logs is beautiful (Ashundar...? ;)).  I would recommend tweaking your cloud fractal settings to get rid of some of that noise on the bottom of the plume coming from the mountain (that doesn't look like a cloud sample thing to me).  The textures and colors in the background could also use some tweaking.
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: sonshine777 on January 24, 2008, 03:06:38 AM
@DaveC: I will try to put together a few screen shots an explanations on object placement and how I did it on this image. (It may be this weekend as my daughter is in labor with my  :) FIRST Granddaughter! :) and things are hectic right now. :))

@calico: Yes it is a steam plume rising out of the crater.

@old_blaggard: I would be happy to upload the log model and the sled models. (After the above reason has slowed some :))
Also the cloud seems odd because it is stretched too much, I tried to do it in one cloud layer instead of two or three which is what I will try in the next set of renders. The single log in the foreground is one from Gary Pooles tutorial on a simple scene.

There will be more updates this weekend depending on how busy things are.
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: dhavalmistry on January 24, 2008, 09:43:06 AM
I like the smoke coming out idea....looks great!
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake *UPDATE*
Post by: sonshine777 on January 31, 2008, 02:14:14 AM
Here is the latest version. @ 37+hours per render getting to the final is a long process.
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: Oshyan on January 31, 2008, 02:40:00 AM
The foreground is *awesome*. Those logs have a surprising air of realism. But I think the mountain needs more texturing and sense of scale. Some additional atmospheric haze might help establish scale - that's a huuuge mountain. Some careful texturing work at appropriate scale might also help. There is tremendous promise in this scene so keep it up!

- Oshyan
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: sonshine777 on January 31, 2008, 02:51:37 AM
Thanks Oshyan, I am building this one from the shore to the mountain. Now that I am fairly happy with the foreground the distance work is next. I still am working on the plume also. I will have more updates soon. I also will get the logs uploaded to Ashunder this weekend.
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: bigben on January 31, 2008, 07:43:27 AM
Yes those logs do look fantastic.  The ends on the left look a little blurred but that seems to give the impression that they're moving which is OK for a floating log.
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: sonshine777 on January 31, 2008, 08:26:45 AM
Quote from: bigben on January 31, 2008, 07:43:27 AM
Yes those logs do look fantastic.  The ends on the left look a little blurred but that seems to give the impression that they're moving which is OK for a floating log.

They are actually post edited. and I also liked how it added a sense motion. I am still working on the model to make the log ends look broken instead of being a straight cut. When I play with the model ends it causes mapping problems with the texture. The logs are extruded along a spline and there is a cap at each end. The caps are treated as a separate object and are perpendicular to the spline and extrusion, making it hard to modify them. I hope to fix it this weekend.
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: rcallicotte on January 31, 2008, 09:39:31 AM
Wow.  This is much, much improved.  It's a rocket heading for the moon.  Keep going.  I agree with Oshyan about the foreground - very good!

Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: dhavalmistry on January 31, 2008, 10:35:31 AM
that log is simple amazing!
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: sonshine777 on January 31, 2008, 11:41:34 AM
Quote from: dhavalmistry on January 31, 2008, 10:35:31 AM
that log is simple amazing!

The foreground log is one that was the stump object in the project files from Gary Pooles tutorial at this link:

http://forums.planetside.co.uk/index.php?topic=63

I have stretched it and rotated it to look like a log.
The floating logs are the ones I created.
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: Oshyan on February 01, 2008, 10:12:56 PM
I'm wondering about using a population of those logs for my own St. Helens scene. Once you get them uploaded to Ash I may give it a shot. ;D

- Oshyan
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: sonshine777 on February 02, 2008, 02:50:15 AM
Quote from: Oshyan on February 01, 2008, 10:12:56 PM
I'm wondering about using a population of those logs for my own St. Helens scene. Once you get them uploaded to Ash I may give it a shot. ;D

- Oshyan

By all means.  :)
I have been working on making the ends of the logs look broken and I am about 3/4 complete. When I am done I will convert the model and post it on Ashunder.
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: sonshine777 on February 04, 2008, 04:43:00 AM
The floating logs model has been posted on Ashunder.  :)
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: Harvey Birdman on February 04, 2008, 05:40:03 AM
Hey, Sonshine - congrats on the grandchild.

;D
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: sonshine777 on February 04, 2008, 06:30:37 AM
Quote from: Harvey Birdman on February 04, 2008, 05:40:03 AM
Hey, Sonshine - congrats on the grandchild.

;D

Thanks Harvey :) Maybe later this afternoon I'll post a proud grandpa photo.
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: Will on February 04, 2008, 06:36:05 AM
yea congrads mate.
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: Harvey Birdman on February 04, 2008, 10:10:44 AM
Quote from: sonshine777 on February 04, 2008, 06:30:37 AM
Thanks Harvey :) Maybe later this afternoon I'll post a proud grandpa photo.

Do it!   You're allowed one.

;)   ;D
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: Oshyan on February 04, 2008, 10:40:52 PM
Quote from: sonshine777 on February 04, 2008, 04:43:00 AM
The floating logs model has been posted on Ashunder.  :)

Excellent, thanks!

- Oshyan
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: dhavalmistry on February 23, 2008, 11:51:21 AM
is the detailed log in the foreground available for download somewhere??
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: j meyer on February 23, 2008, 04:18:29 PM
dhavalmistry:look at reply#13 on page 1 of this thread. ;)
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: dhavalmistry on February 23, 2008, 05:21:45 PM
thank you j meyer
Title: Re: St Helens-View from Spirit Lake
Post by: efflux on March 07, 2008, 10:13:18 PM
I don't like the cloud but the logs are great.