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Title: Wrong Side of Town
Post by: rcallicotte on May 18, 2008, 07:39:04 PM
Without TG2 as the base, this wouldn't be nearly as fun.  Comments are welcome.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1677376&member
Title: Re: Wrong Side of Town
Post by: Kevin F on May 19, 2008, 03:17:12 AM
Sorry Calico, but I just don't go for this sort of stuff at all. It just appears too flat and cartoon like. Still each to their own.
Edit:Distant waterfalls aren't too bad how did you do them?
Title: Re: Wrong Side of Town
Post by: rcallicotte on May 19, 2008, 09:06:22 AM
Kevin, I knew this wouldn't compete for the picture of the week, when I posted it.  ;D  Besides, I have problems with the fact the PNG (for the woman) has a white outline I just couldn't remove...and the distant buildings aren't what I want.  I guess I was in a hurry to post.

Anyway, I used brushes from Renderosity for the distant falls. 

Title: Re: Wrong Side of Town
Post by: Mohawk20 on May 19, 2008, 11:51:56 AM
Mostly the problem is integration...

The TG2 backdrop is not very saturated and has low contrast. The Buildings in the distance are therefore much too saturated.
So if you work in layers, you should tweak them to have similar contrast and saturation.

The white edge around the girl shouldn't be too hard to get rid of if take the time...


I like the idea of the scene. Has an adventurous feel to it. What software did you use to postpro this in? Do have it saved as a layerd file? I'd like to play with it a bit to see if I can get it a little better integrated if you like.
Title: Re: Wrong Side of Town
Post by: rcallicotte on May 19, 2008, 12:13:54 PM
Mohawk, I used Photoshop for to bring it together.

As for the white edge around the PNG, I looked and didn't find what I would call a reliable way to remove that edge.  I'm trying another file format to see if I can eliminate the edge.

I plan to rework this and am grateful for the suggestions.  I'll repost, once I re-do what needs done. 

As for distant saturation and contrast, you're right that they aren't desaturated enough.  At that distance, they should be grayer.
Title: Re: Wrong Side of Town
Post by: glen5700 on May 19, 2008, 01:21:16 PM
Hi Calico,
I'm assuming the girl is a layer in Photoshop, with the girl layer selected goto layers menu and all the way to the bottom to matting and then defringe. Choose the pixel value, I would start with 1 and go from there.
This should take care of your problem.

HTH,
Glen
Title: Re: Wrong Side of Town
Post by: Mohawk20 on May 19, 2008, 01:45:44 PM
Quote from: glen5700 on May 19, 2008, 01:21:16 PM
Hi Calico,
I'm assuming the girl is a layer in Photoshop, with the girl layer selected goto layers menu and all the way to the bottom to matting and then defringe. Choose the pixel value, I would start with 1 and go from there.
This should take care of your problem.

HTH,
Glen

Right... another way is to select the outline of the girl, go to 'Select' - 'Refine Edge...' (or just press 'Alt+Ctrl+R') and use 'Contract / Expand'. Or use the 'Select' - 'Modify >' - 'Contract' dialog.

You can also use a layermask and a brush if you have the time...
Title: Re: Wrong Side of Town
Post by: cyphyr on May 19, 2008, 02:02:13 PM
I agree pretty much with what everyone else has said about this image. It for sure has great potential but why don't you render the entire thing in TG2?
Compositing renders or images created in different apps is an arcane art and very difficult to achieve well. Saw Dusk till Dawn again last nigh and saw just how bad the matt painting at the end was. And that was big budget and not too long ago.
Good luck with progressing it further.
Richard
Title: Re: Wrong Side of Town
Post by: rcallicotte on May 19, 2008, 04:54:35 PM
Thanks everyone.  The encouragement and tools to help me are appreciated.

I'm waiting for things to work better in TG2 for objects, before I dedicate that much to the TG2 renderer.  But, it's crossed my mind.
Title: Re: Wrong Side of Town
Post by: Muied Lumens on May 21, 2008, 12:58:56 PM
Reminds me of Tomb Raider. Esp with the Rex in there.  :)
Title: Re: Wrong Side of Town
Post by: rcallicotte on June 03, 2008, 07:40:04 AM
After some more work to clean this up and touch this up, this is the final. 
Title: Re: Wrong Side of Town
Post by: Seth on June 03, 2008, 10:36:26 AM
50seconds later and there will be only a dinosaur and no girl !
good improvement
Title: Re: Wrong Side of Town
Post by: old_blaggard on June 03, 2008, 12:36:04 PM
Nice job!  I've never been a fan of the quality of Poser models, but you've integrated this one into the scene nicely.
Title: Re: Wrong Side of Town
Post by: Mohawk20 on June 04, 2008, 11:27:12 AM
Did you know you can render a TG scene and use that image as a background in poser? That way there will be no edges around the poser objects. Image quality degrades a bit however...
Title: Re: Wrong Side of Town
Post by: rcallicotte on June 04, 2008, 12:09:14 PM
Mohawk, I might try that.  I like using the TG2 renderer as much as possible.  Once things change on the level of textures, I'll just render characters like this Lara-wanna-be in TG2.
Title: Re: Wrong Side of Town
Post by: Phylloxera on June 04, 2008, 12:33:57 PM
You already made much better!   :-\