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Title: Phoenix : From Mars with love.
Post by: Chinaski on May 24, 2008, 12:21:25 AM
Hi all!

Some renders about Mars phoenix lander mission. Not enough time to finish my scene (it's tomorow!), so I just post what I've done.

Phoenix lander mesh is homemade, terrain is full procedural, ice climb is not image mapped (efflux's trick), I've used and modified Tangled-Universe's fake stones clip. Rendered on my old PIII with free TG2 preview version, panoramics are build with PanoTools / hugin.

(http://f1evv.free.fr/tg2/phoenix/phoenix-pano-vi.jpg) (http://f1evv.free.fr/tg2/phoenix/phoenix-pano.jpg)

(http://f1evv.free.fr/tg2/phoenix/phoenix-zoom-vi.jpg) (http://f1evv.free.fr/tg2/phoenix/phoenix-zoom.jpg)

(http://f1evv.free.fr/tg2/phoenix/phoenix-trois-quarts-vi.jpg) (http://f1evv.free.fr/tg2/phoenix/phoenix-trois-quarts.jpg)

(http://f1evv.free.fr/tg2/phoenix/phoenix-beige-bleu-vi.jpg) (http://f1evv.free.fr/tg2/phoenix/phoenix-beige-bleu.jpg)

(http://f1evv.free.fr/tg2/phoenix/phoenix-2-vertical-vi.jpg) (http://f1evv.free.fr/tg2/phoenix/phoenix-2-vertical.jpg)

Et, en français dans le texte, un grand MERDE aux gus qui font voler ce joujou. ;)
nb : WIP thread of the project (with other renders) here (http://www.planete-terragen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2292), on planete-terragen forum.
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: mrwho on May 24, 2008, 12:26:37 AM
nice. I like the 4th one the most, well done.
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: PG on May 24, 2008, 03:11:59 AM
Whereabouts did you find this trick by Efflux? and the clip from tangled universe?
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: Seth on May 24, 2008, 05:21:03 AM
moi j'adore !
un petit moins sur l'atmo quje trouve simple, mais c'est pour chipoter ;)
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: Mohawk20 on May 24, 2008, 07:11:53 AM
Great detail and realism. A good show of what Terragen can do!
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: Costaud on May 24, 2008, 09:53:56 AM
Excellent Mars scene, the light is very well done, nice ship too. Oui MERDE au gus ça tu peux le dire.
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: cyphyr on May 24, 2008, 10:30:13 AM
Beautifully realized, very well done. Make sure you send a copy to NASA (and don't forget to digitally sign it in some way ;) )
Richard
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: Chinaski on May 24, 2008, 11:48:51 AM
@ PG: I've used this Efflux method (http://forums.planetside.co.uk/index.php?topic=2655.msg26978#msg26978) but modifying this :
(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/5575/perlinstratacolourgraphqt7.jpg)

to this (differents scales and noises, no displacement) :
(http://www.euphorie.org/vrac/terragen/phoenix-falaise.png)

Here is the Tangled-Universe's cracked rocks clip (http://forums.planetside.co.uk/index.php?topic=1939.msg19180#msg19180). It looks like that in my scene :
(http://www.euphorie.org/vrac/terragen/phoenix-roche.png)
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: rcallicotte on May 24, 2008, 12:58:58 PM
Hey, this was fun.  Cool lighting in a couple of them.  Thanks for sharing your methods!
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: PG on May 24, 2008, 01:56:58 PM
I love the second one and I want to use the first one as my forums signature :D
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: Tangled-Universe on May 24, 2008, 01:57:45 PM
Very good work so far Chinaski! Nice to see you've made good use of my clip.
This has all been rendered in TG? I can remember that Lucio once posted a similar theme and used max to integrate/compose a TG rendered terrain in a 3ds-max scene.
I like the cracks in the ground (3rd and 4th picture) Image map based displacement I guess?
The rock-scales are nice but I think the ground can use some more bumpy detail.
I also see artifacts in the lander's shadow in the 4th picture? Or am I mistaking :)
The atmo is very nice by the way.
Happy to see some more of this in the future.

Martin
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: Chinaski on May 24, 2008, 03:26:57 PM
That's full TG2 (build1.9.04.1) rendered. There is just a little postwork for build panoramics, color balance and sharpen. Nothing else. The Phoenix lander was modelised in old max 5 version (http://www.planete-terragen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=18004#18004) (I was help by Corby Waste's pictures of lander), convert with PoseRay, and import in TG2 (with some material rendering problems (http://forums.planetside.co.uk/index.php?topic=3087.0)).


For the terrain, when I've started this project I've decided to do a function only landscape (http://www.planete-terragen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=17087#17087), and build it with Terragen only (I regulary use World Machine or GeoControl, but this time it was for test TG2's terrains generation capability).

That's work fine, but with render artefacts. So I do this (http://www.planete-terragen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=18210#18210), and finally this:
(http://www.euphorie.org/vrac/terragen/phoenix-terrain.png)

Auto generating terrain time is ½ hour on my pentium III computer.


You're right, the cracks effect is image map based displacement. I know how to do that with functions (http://en.tgblog.de/?p=27), but my node network was already really really really complicated:
(http://www.euphorie.org/vrac/terragen/phoenix-nodes.png)
And I try to limit the render time. ;)


In the lander's shadow, I think what you see is not an artefact. There is a lot of things under the lander: The shadow, the robot arm's trench, some cracks and stones, the landing-rockets (???) traces, etc. Maybe it's one of this (unfinished) things that you see as an artefact (I hope).

And I'm agree with you, the ground can use some more bumpy detail. By the way there is a lot of improvements to do on ground (sand dunes, arm's trench, bumpyness, etc.) on lander (materials) and on sky (global atmosphere, light, cirrus clouds, dust storm, dust evils, etc.). I have a very long ToDolist... :D

I just wanted posting something before the Phoenix landing (and before we see the real mars (flat) lanscape around Phoenix). It's done. Now I can take my time and working fine this scene.

nb : I hope someone will understand my very bad english. :D
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: inkydigit on May 24, 2008, 03:33:27 PM
I like 3 and 4 most....holy cow your node network is an artwork in itself!!!
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: Mr_Lamppost on May 24, 2008, 04:22:38 PM
They are all good but I like the composition in the last one best.

And I thought I made complex networks.  ;D
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: Chinaski on May 24, 2008, 08:52:38 PM
(http://f1evv.free.fr/tg2/phoenix/phoenix-chinoise-vi.jpg) (http://f1evv.free.fr/tg2/phoenix/phoenix-chinoise.jpg)
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: mrwho on May 24, 2008, 10:13:13 PM
nice! good composition and atmo. and the light dust is excellent.
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: Tangled-Universe on May 25, 2008, 07:31:07 AM
MrWho already nailed it...great composition, atmo and dusty feel.
I really like this update. Only thing I'd try to improve is to soften the specular highlights on the lander.
Very very good work :)

Thanks for the thorough explanation also. My node-networks turn bland compared to yours ;D

Martin
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: Chinaski on May 25, 2008, 11:39:03 AM
(http://f1evv.free.fr/tg2/phoenix/phoenix-envirolight-vi.jpg) (http://f1evv.free.fr/tg2/phoenix/phoenix-envirolight.jpg)
Bigger one! Something wrong with purple reflections but...
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: Seth on May 25, 2008, 02:13:18 PM
the last two renders are great !
i love the long shadows !
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: Chinaski on May 25, 2008, 07:55:36 PM
Touchdown!
Title: Re: From Mars with love.
Post by: Mr_Lamppost on May 25, 2008, 08:19:55 PM
Now we get to see how accurate you are.  ;)
Title: Re: Phoenix : From Mars with love.
Post by: Chinaski on May 27, 2008, 09:05:26 AM
I'm not. Nasa prefer safe flat (with no rock) landscape for Phoenix's landing site... They right, science first ! That's just a little boring to do on TG2 when you want test procedural terrain formation capabilities. ;)

Maybe I'll do a realistic render... One day. :)
And thanks for comments all.
Title: Re: Phoenix : From Mars with love.
Post by: Seth on May 27, 2008, 11:09:36 AM
but there are rocks where phoenix landed... watch the pics ;)
Title: Re: Phoenix : From Mars with love.
Post by: Chinaski on May 30, 2008, 09:13:19 PM
(oui mais ils sont tout petits, c'est même pas drôle. :/)

An upgrate of the 4th image. Bigger (careful 1.2Mo), color range change (perhaps not a good thing), rock's surface, and modified lander's specular.

(http://f1evv.free.fr/tg2/phoenix/phoenix-v2-v5-vi.jpg) (http://f1evv.free.fr/tg2/phoenix/phoenix-v2-v5.jpg)
Title: Re: Phoenix : From Mars with love.
Post by: Tangled-Universe on May 31, 2008, 04:12:18 AM
Nice update!
Love all the adjustments you've made. The dust clouds are a nice touch also.
Great work! ;D

Martin