Bobby worked pretty hard on converting this city, and it's available to download over at Ashunder
Here are a couple of slices of the city.
http://www.ashundar.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=1&pos=0
http://www.ashundar.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=1&pos=2
Permanent links are:
http://www.ashundar.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-5362
http://www.ashundar.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-5360
As I said before, quite nice work and many thanks to bobby for going through the trouble.
Is he actually the creator of Dystopia? This package is available at DAZ for Lightwave and Poser for $$.
You can read the full story at Ashunder, in a couple diff. threads.
Do you have a link to the explanation? Is this free somehow? Strange, since this package isn't for free on DAZ. I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing here. Dystopia sold on DAZ - http://www.daz3d.com/i.x/shop/itemdetails/-/?item=4722&cat=349&_m=d is just one link of many from the same creators.
The first two parts of Dystopia are sold at DAZ for... 0$ each :) so they are free as beer (not as speech, obviously).
So as long as something is given away, then we're free to provide it here in TGO format? Really?
Quote from: latego on June 16, 2008, 02:32:25 PM
The first two parts of Dystopia are sold at DAZ for... 0$ each :) so they are free as beer (not as speech, obviously).
http://www.ashundar.com/index.php?topic=4401.0
Thanks Mandrake. I didn't realize we could upload TGO's from free models. I'm not sure why I didn't. :o Cool.
I did not mean to imply that YOU could! ;)
Quote from: calico on June 16, 2008, 02:54:22 PM
So as long as something is given away, then we're free to provide it here in TGO format? Really?
Err ... I'm pretty sure this is
NOT the case. Just because (for example) I give something away this dose not mean that I give permission for anyone else to give it away whether or not they have changed its format. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that unless the original author of the work gives specific permission for redistribution (which will often include riders about maintaining the original format and including a text file with information about the author, web site, email etc) we really should not go about re-posting other peoples work. If I'm wrong then I guess we could all go and subtly change all of lightening's wonderful work (just as an example) and then give them away and in some small way steal his credit or at least his web traffic. Not good !
Richard
@cyphyr, I thought someone from Planetside addressed this. Maybe my memory was correct. But, if not, I own stuff from DAZ that I have converted to work in TG2 and rendered with it. I'm sure this is permitted. But, this issue of free models being distributed needs to be addressed, before we do the wrong thing or miss out on the good...whichever.
Bobby has permission, to tgo this set. I get a news letter from "The 3D Studio" Once a month that has a free obj, I would not be able to redistribute that type of free obj. for example..
Quote from: Mandrake on June 16, 2008, 06:06:21 PM
Bobby has permission, to tgo this set. I get a news letter from "The 3D Studio" Once a month that has a free obj, I would not be able to redistribute that type of free obj. for example..
Bobby is pretty hot on making sure he has permission to use and of distribute models. His post is buried in a long thread on Ashundar but he has established that the models available on the Archibase site are both available legitimately and free , at least for personal use.
Archibase: http://www.archibase.net/gdl?category=0&page=1021
I already own these, so it doesn't matter to me. I have permission, based upon that, to use the object. Not to sell it, of course.
I appreciate Bobby's hard work.
Just a little note:
Models in general are not allowed to be reposted in a converted format unless expressly allowed by their creator; clauses saying that redistribution is not allowed cover redistribution in a different format. Privately converting a model you have rights to use for another application is perfectly fine. In the past we have had a issues with a couple of models that were posted to Ashundar that had simply been converted to .tgo format from their original without the author's permission. The authors contacted us and we removed them. In this case, however, I don't think there is a problem. Bobby is a moderator in the free downloads section of Renderosity, and thus a) is familiar with the terms under which models can be uploaded and b) is in a good position to make contact with the original authors of many models to seek permission to upload them, which he regularly does for models that he deems would be valuable to the community.
And unless I misunderstood, bobby did specifically state that he got permission earlier in the thread. :)
- Oshyan
Quote from: old_blaggard on June 16, 2008, 11:28:29 PM
Just a little note:
Models in general are not allowed to be reposted in a converted format unless expressly allowed by their creator; clauses saying that redistribution is not allowed cover redistribution in a different format. Privately converting a model you have rights to use for another application is perfectly fine. In the past we have had a issues with a couple of models that were posted to Ashundar that had simply been converted to .tgo format from their original without the author's permission. The authors contacted us and we removed them. In this case, however, I don't think there is a problem. Bobby is a moderator in the free downloads section of Renderosity, and thus a) is familiar with the terms under which models can be uploaded and b) is in a good position to make contact with the original authors of many models to seek permission to upload them, which he regularly does for models that he deems would be valuable to the community.
This is good to hear. The creators of Dystopia are incredible modelers and their cityscapes are excellent. I'm glad Bobby got permission and especially thankful for his hard work. This is an excellent set.
I guess i should log in to this topic..sorry I've been absent more than here. Franco, though it took some time as his wife was busy giving birth when I contacted him, wrote back saying it would be totally cool to convert them..he was anxious to see how the'd look with the new TG2's great abilities. He did ask that folks post at :
http://www.team-dystopia.com/frm/index.php
when images were posted and to give credit where credit is due, but over all was happy to share as this block is still free at DAZ...just checked, as a lwo format exe, 2 actually, 1-10 and 11-20 should anyone care to give em a conversion shot from the lwo ver. I have no LW so I haven't tried that route myself.
Query ...do you need LW installed to use lwo in TG2TP like MAX requires.. ...
Quote from: bobbystahr on June 17, 2008, 12:11:58 PM
Query ...do you need LW installed to use lwo in TG2TP like MAX requires.. ...
No. TG2's LWO support is a built-in "native" capability, not dependent on any other program.
- Oshyan