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Title: La p'tit2
Post by: Martchi on August 05, 2008, 11:33:06 AM
Arbres Xfrog, herbe Lightning(merci), Lierre Yvigen et pour la petite maison ( je m'en souviens plus), MPVC!
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: rcallicotte on August 05, 2008, 11:41:38 AM
Looks like Vue.  Nice work!!!
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: Tangled-Universe on August 05, 2008, 12:55:53 PM
Great work Marcello! I really love the lighting and haze, work very well together!
Only one thing puzzles me and that's why the shadows throughout the whole image are nice soft and light and in the foreground they're harsh and black... Something you can't really help I think. I think it is still one of the weakest points of the current renderer.
Nevertheless great work :)

Martin

Quote from: calico on August 05, 2008, 11:41:38 AM
Looks like Vue.  Nice work.

Is that supposed to be a compliment ;D lol
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: rcallicotte on August 05, 2008, 01:09:24 PM
@TU - Yes.   :'(

Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: Martchi on August 05, 2008, 01:16:11 PM
Quote from: Tangled-Universe on August 05, 2008, 12:55:53 PM
Great work Marcello! I really love the lighting and haze, work very well together!
Only one thing puzzles me and that's why the shadows throughout the whole image are nice soft and light and in the foreground they're harsh and black... Something you can't really help I think. I think it is still one of the weakest points of the current renderer.
Nevertheless great work :)

Martin

Quote from: calico on August 05, 2008, 11:41:38 AM
Looks like Vue.  Nice work.

Is that supposed to be a compliment ;D lol
i put 3 sun!
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: sonshine777 on August 05, 2008, 01:19:40 PM
Looks wonderful! :) The only thing I would change is the "New" look of the fence, it doesn't fit the run down cottage.
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: nvseal on August 05, 2008, 03:12:34 PM
I agree about the new look of the fence. Still looks great though, nice work!
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: lightning on August 05, 2008, 04:27:38 PM
oh..........WOW! this looks superb the plantage looks amazing!!! the fence does look a little out of place try adding some moss texture to it to age it abit or just add some ivy to it in ivygen ;) then it would look really cool!

it kinda reminds me if any of you read Harry Potter of what the house of gaunt would look like in the half blood prince :)
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: schmeerlap on August 05, 2008, 05:50:46 PM
A wonderfully sumptuous render; the mystic-like lighting in the background mist gives the scene a magical touch. Would have been the perfect lid for my biscuit tin with a more weathered picket fence.
John
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: Saurav on August 05, 2008, 06:42:51 PM
Superb render, beautifully lit. Vegetation are looking pretty good in TG2 these days. :)
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: Tangled-Universe on August 06, 2008, 10:14:12 AM
Quote from: calico on August 05, 2008, 01:09:24 PM
@TU - Yes.   :'(



Haha, don't worry/feel sad...it was just a joke ;D I think it looks better than Vue renders :)
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: rcallicotte on August 06, 2008, 11:24:28 AM
I think the lighting does look better in this one than Vue and the vegetation, though a difficult project (look at the node network), looks about the same as some very good Vue images I've seen. 

What I would like is a VRay caliber renderer in here...uh, but okay...   ;D
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: Seth on August 06, 2008, 07:11:31 PM
superbe !
bravo !
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: Oshyan on August 12, 2008, 02:49:28 AM
Quote from: calico on August 06, 2008, 11:24:28 AM
I think the lighting does look better in this one than Vue and the vegetation, though a difficult project (look at the node network), looks about the same as some very good Vue images I've seen. 

What I would like is a VRay caliber renderer in here...uh, but okay...   ;D
Vray is tremendous in many areas, but I'm actually curious how well it would do with some of the things TG2 does well - most particularly the extreme displacement TG2 relies on for all terrain rendering (and which help add so much realistic detail to TG scenes).

- Oshyan
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: rcallicotte on August 12, 2008, 09:50:57 AM
Oshyan, TG2 has great lighting.  VRay is sensational.  It looks more real than anything I've seen and I'm pretty sure it's just a renderer...nothing to do with geometry.  What I like about VRay is how it can balance the lighting from dark to bright in a way that I have seen none other do so far.

What Martchi has done here is very nice...lighting included.
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: Oshyan on August 12, 2008, 11:47:32 PM
Yes, I agree Vray has the best results of any renderer currently. Again I only question whether it could handle a scene generated in the way that TG2 works, using so much displacement. I have done some limited experiments with the trial version of Vray using displacement and achieving results like TG2 was not possible for me. This could easily be because I don't know how to use Vray very well at all, but from what I found the render times for even basic displacement were not particularly impressive. I am curious to see if a more realistic scene between TG2 and Vray could be made to match and how the render times would compare. Most of what you see from Vray is indoor scenes, where it definitely excels, so I'd love to see what it can do outdoors...

- Oshyan
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: Christopher on August 12, 2008, 11:57:46 PM
Does Vray have physically accurate lighting methods? I looked at there site and could not find any myself. I'd say if not then Maxwell should produce even more realistic results then Vray does.
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: Oshyan on August 13, 2008, 12:18:16 AM
Quote from: Christopher on August 12, 2008, 11:57:46 PM
Does Vray have physically accurate lighting methods? I looked at there site and could not find any myself. I'd say if not then Maxwell should produce even more realistic results then Vray does.
Should in theory, but does not in practice, in most cases. Vray does simulate the most important and common complex lighting phenomena, like caustics, dispersion (I think), etc.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: Christopher on August 13, 2008, 03:39:53 AM
Quote from: Oshyan on August 13, 2008, 12:18:16 AM
Should in theory, but does not in practice, in most cases. Vray does simulate the most important and common complex lighting phenomena, like caustics, dispersion (I think), etc.

- Oshyan

In the case of Maxwell, there is the calculation of physical light information along the spectrum and a high dynamic range using an unbiased render engine. The spectral stuff i am assuming it calculates waves of light down to the nanometer i guess.

I think finalRender Stage-1 is another very good render engine.
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: rcallicotte on August 13, 2008, 09:06:47 AM
This is a good point, Oshyan.  Most of the scenes I've been impressed with are indoor or close architectural outdoor scenes with lots of ambient lighting and / or tricky light settings.


Quote from: Oshyan on August 12, 2008, 11:47:32 PM
Most of what you see from Vray is indoor scenes, where it definitely excels, so I'd love to see what it can do outdoors...

- Oshyan
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: sjefen on August 13, 2008, 09:55:41 AM
Why do people always forget mental ray?

- Terje
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: moodflow on August 13, 2008, 02:52:48 PM
This is one of the best "foliage and light" TG2 images I've seen yet.  Very nice work!
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: Oshyan on August 15, 2008, 11:49:33 PM
Quote from: sjefen on August 13, 2008, 09:55:41 AM
Why do people always forget mental ray?

- Terje
Because Mental Ray is a lot harder to produce Vray-level images with. ;D

Maxwell is great in theory as an "unbiased renderer", but in practice Vray equals it in most respects, and does so with higher performance.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: La p'tit2
Post by: lightning on August 17, 2008, 01:44:59 AM
yeah vray is probably the best renderer i have used heaps of renderers
vray
mental ray
maxwell
Brazil
final render etc and vray gives me the best results i haven't been using it for that long (a couple of months)
so im still a rookie but im starting to gain a firm grip on it ;D
heres a wee render i did of the lush clump models that will be in the epic grass pack
scene made in max rendered with vray
took 1:30 seconds to render which is very quick!!

click to enlarge
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